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12/18/2013 5:39 PM
Alright this is a good trade.
12/18/2013 8:03 PM
Posted by jonas1102 on 12/18/2013 5:01:00 PM (view original):
David Lough for Danny Valencia.... not quite the #2 starter they were expecting for him

Who is "they?"

12/18/2013 8:21 PM
jlrunruh had proposed that the royals trade Lough for Jose Altuve or Scott Feldman. The "they" is sarcasm I suspect.

So you are happy with a broken part timer? I guess it is last call at the bar.

12/18/2013 8:52 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/18/2013 2:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 12/18/2013 2:26:00 PM (view original):
Mays, Aaron and Perry chemically enhanced their bodies with steroids?

That's news to me.
Does this no longer apply?   "It's pretty stupid to acknowledge the accomplishments of cheaters to put them on a pedistal as "one of the greatest of all time".

Or do you allow some forms of cheating but not others?   If so, please list acceptable cheating so we don't have to go thru this again.

Steroids/PEDs.

Duh.
12/18/2013 9:20 PM
Amphetamines are PEDs.
12/18/2013 9:23 PM
good trade. We get a .300 hitter. I repeat, good trade.
12/18/2013 9:53 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 12/18/2013 9:20:00 PM (view original):
Amphetamines are PEDs.
Sure they are.  If you want to pretend that.

Should we also pretend that coffee and Gatorade are PED's?
12/18/2013 10:01 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 12/18/2013 9:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 12/18/2013 9:20:00 PM (view original):
Amphetamines are PEDs.
Sure they are.  If you want to pretend that.

Should we also pretend that coffee and Gatorade are PED's?
So you're denying that amphetamines are PEDs?

Interesting.
12/18/2013 10:16 PM
When MLB is referring to PED's, are they generally referring to amphetamines?

Have the players who have been getting suspended under the JDA over the past couple of years generally been getting busted for doing speed?

Why do you continue to insist on acting like a dumbass?

12/18/2013 10:22 PM
Plenty of players have been suspended for amphetamines. But, please, continue to argue that amphetamines aren't performance enhancing.
12/18/2013 10:26 PM
Please tell me how the recent crackdown in MLB on PED's is specifically targeting amphetamine usage.
12/18/2013 10:49 PM
12/18/2013 11:01 PM
The only reason amphetamines were ever banned in baseball is because they were scheduled illegal in 1969. The only reason ephedrine was banned is because it was scheduled illegal by the Feds in 2004. Even after Steve Bechler's death in 03, ephedrine was not banned in the majors.

I can take caffeine pills that have the same effect as both drugs. If baseball considered amphetamines a PED, caffeine would be outlawed as well.
12/18/2013 11:04 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 12/18/2013 10:49:00 PM (view original):
You mean like Miguel Tejada's 105 game suspension under the Joint Drug Agreement? Or Carlos Ruiz's suspension at the beginning of 2013?

Amphetamines are performance enhancing drugs:
http://www.philly.com/philly/health/Adderall-MLBs-latest-performance-enhancing-drug.html

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/performanceenhancingdrugs/a/Amphetamines.htm

http://vada-testing.org/component/content/article/99-medianews/245-the-implications-of-the-use-of-adderall-as-a-performance-enhancing-drug-in-nfl-athletes-245



Adderall is a schedule two drug. Of course it's not allowed in baseball.
12/18/2013 11:22 PM
Baseball turned a blind eye to steroids and HGH because it made the game more exciting to the average fan. They specifically came out and banned them as performance enhancers in 2005 even though they technically became outlawed by baseballs rules in 1989 when they were put on the US illegal drug schedule. Baseball never specifically banned stimulants. The government did because of the health risks involved with using them.
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