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5/24/2012 10:40 AM
I have posted this same question the last few years about this time of the season. 

Which of these players, if any, will make the Hall of Fame?  I'm not suggesting that any of them will or won't - I'm just throwing out a list of names.  I'm not asking if they would make it if their career ended today but instead, look into your crystal ball and tell me if they will finish with a career good enough and end up in the Hall of Fame.

Omar Vizquel
Johnny Damon
Chipper Jones
Bobby Abreu
Carlos Lee
Michael Young
Adrian Beltre
Paul Koneko
Scott Rolen
Carlos Beltran
Jimmy Rollins
Lance Berkman
Andruw Jones
David Ortiz
Alfonso Soriano
Adam Dunn
Mark Teixiera
Ryan Howard
Miguel Cabrera
Juan Pierre
Jamie Moyer
Andy Pettitte
Roy Halladay
CC Sabathia
Tim Hudson







5/24/2012 11:31 AM
About half make it and half don't. 
5/24/2012 11:47 AM
Omar Vizquel
Chipper Jones
Miguel Cabrera
Roy Halladay
CC Sabathia

I would say only Chipper and Vizquel are locks.  The other three have alot of work to do.

5/24/2012 11:50 AM
FWIW, I think Cano could be on that list.  He has 1300 hits in the midst of his 8th season.  He is 29yo and really hitting his stride.  1700 hits over the course of the next 12years is certainly possible.
5/24/2012 12:09 PM
Way less than half I think.

Chipper
Cabrera
Halladay
Sabathia
Teixeira

I wouldn't vote for Vizquel, but he might make it.

Pettitte, Hudson and Damon will probably all get some significant support, but none of them feel like HOF to me. 

Of course, there's a number of other active players who are obviously HOFers who are not on this list.  And I agree that Cano is on pace for the HOF.
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5/24/2012 12:20 PM
Posted by jrd_x on 5/24/2012 12:12:00 PM (view original):
Vizquel as a lock??? I don't think he should make it.  He was considered very good defensively but he was significantly below average offensively his entire career with the exception of 2 seasons.
See Ozzie Smith
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5/24/2012 4:44 PM
That post makes no sense.
5/24/2012 4:55 PM

Chipper Jones

Scott Rolen

Miguel Cabrera

Roy Halladay
CC Sabathia
5/24/2012 5:11 PM
Posted by Bilfert on 5/24/2012 4:38:00 PM (view original):
God I am tired of hearing about WAR.  I love stats and number like the next guy, but come on.  What is baseball about?  Winning?  Getting hits?  Playing defense? Driving in runs?  

If it's all about Wins, then Ted Williams sucked.

If it's about batting average, Mike Schmidt sucked.

If it's about Defense, Tony Gywnn sucked.

If it's about RBI, then Joe Morgan sucked.

Would someone please tell me, is baseball a real game played by real people that make (or do not ) make plays?  The goal of a hitter is to get on base, the goal of a pitcher and defense is to get hitters out.  Can we go back to judging players based on this criteria.  You cannot control who you play for, who you play with, what era you play in, injuries and plain old luck.
If Vizquel's HOF case rests entirely on his defense (and it does), we need to evaluate that defense somehow.  Yeah he won gold gloves, but everybody knows that gold gloves aren't the best indicators of great defense.

WAR incorporates defense.  If Vizquel was anywhere near Smith defensively, their WARs would be much closer.  But they aren't. 
5/24/2012 7:22 PM
Chipper, Cabrera, Halladay

Sabathia, Rolen, Texeira, Beltre, and Andruw Jones all have shots.
5/24/2012 7:25 PM
chipper, if at all
5/24/2012 7:27 PM
Oh boy, another thread for jrd_x to spout off about his "advanced metrics"...

This oughta be fun.
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