8/7/2013 5:38 AM
if it wasnt for that historically bad 2011 season...3 times as many Ks as hits!

but no. no 240 hitter will make the hall, unless they have an outrageous glove and PR guy
8/7/2013 1:32 PM
I just looked at his baseball reference page; its funny that his OWAR & DWAR almost cancel each other out after 13 seasons. I've always liked Dunn, but there is no way he'll make the HOF, nor should he be there. 
If I had to guess, I'd say he makes 500, but gets no where close to 600.
8/7/2013 2:09 PM
HR          AVG          OBP          SLG       OPS+
438        .279          .323          .482        119
432        .239          .368          .497        125
382        .298          .352          .502        128


Two of these outfielders are in the hall of fame.     
8/7/2013 2:14 PM
Dunn isn't (wasn't) so much an outfielder as some who happened to stand in the outfield while his team wasn't batting.
8/7/2013 2:33 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/7/2013 2:09:00 PM (view original):
HR          AVG          OBP          SLG       OPS+
438        .279          .323          .482        119
432        .239          .368          .497        125
382        .298          .352          .502        128


Two of these outfielders are in the hall of fame.     
Eh.

This guy didn't even sniff the Hall of Fame:

HR     AVG     OBP     SLG     OPS+
381     .295     .369     .564     144
8/7/2013 3:01 PM
Posted by stinenavy on 8/7/2013 2:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/7/2013 2:09:00 PM (view original):
HR          AVG          OBP          SLG       OPS+
438        .279          .323          .482        119
432        .239          .368          .497        125
382        .298          .352          .502        128


Two of these outfielders are in the hall of fame.     
Eh.

This guy didn't even sniff the Hall of Fame:

HR     AVG     OBP     SLG     OPS+
381     .295     .369     .564     144
Belle should have received more consideration. And Dawson and Rice shouldn't have been allowed in.
8/7/2013 3:09 PM
Oh, so it was more of anti-Dawson and Rice thing than a pro-Dunn?  I'm on board.
8/7/2013 3:13 PM
Posted by AlCheez on 8/7/2013 3:09:00 PM (view original):
Oh, so it was more of anti-Dawson and Rice thing than a pro-Dunn?  I'm on board.
Yep. If it's so easy to dismiss Dunn's case then what the hell are Rice and Dawson doing in the hall.
8/7/2013 3:16 PM
Opposite Day already?
8/7/2013 3:42 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/7/2013 3:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by AlCheez on 8/7/2013 3:09:00 PM (view original):
Oh, so it was more of anti-Dawson and Rice thing than a pro-Dunn?  I'm on board.
Yep. If it's so easy to dismiss Dunn's case then what the hell are Rice and Dawson doing in the hall.
Thumbing their noses at you?
8/7/2013 3:50 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/7/2013 3:16:00 PM (view original):
Opposite Day already?
What do you mean?
8/7/2013 3:53 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/7/2013 3:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by AlCheez on 8/7/2013 3:09:00 PM (view original):
Oh, so it was more of anti-Dawson and Rice thing than a pro-Dunn?  I'm on board.
Yep. If it's so easy to dismiss Dunn's case then what the hell are Rice and Dawson doing in the hall.
I also dismissed Rice and Dawson.  Also, Dunn can't play the outfield.  Wasn't Dawson a great CFer?
8/7/2013 4:15 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 8/7/2013 3:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/7/2013 3:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by AlCheez on 8/7/2013 3:09:00 PM (view original):
Oh, so it was more of anti-Dawson and Rice thing than a pro-Dunn?  I'm on board.
Yep. If it's so easy to dismiss Dunn's case then what the hell are Rice and Dawson doing in the hall.
I also dismissed Rice and Dawson.  Also, Dunn can't play the outfield.  Wasn't Dawson a great CFer?
I'm definitely not arguing that Dunn should be in. Just pointing out how ridiculous it was to let in Rice and Dawson.
8/7/2013 5:18 PM (edited)
Posted by bad_luck on 8/7/2013 4:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 8/7/2013 3:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/7/2013 3:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by AlCheez on 8/7/2013 3:09:00 PM (view original):
Oh, so it was more of anti-Dawson and Rice thing than a pro-Dunn?  I'm on board.
Yep. If it's so easy to dismiss Dunn's case then what the hell are Rice and Dawson doing in the hall.
I also dismissed Rice and Dawson.  Also, Dunn can't play the outfield.  Wasn't Dawson a great CFer?
I'm definitely not arguing that Dunn should be in. Just pointing out how ridiculous it was to let in Rice and Dawson.
I'm not going to argue that Rice and/or Dawson should or shouldn't be in the HOF, but they really aren't close to good comparisons for Dunn... neither was nearly as bad in the field as Dunn, both have MVP's and multiple Top-5 MVP votes (as well as a littany of other Hardware... Dawson has EIGHT Gold Gloves) and both are certainly more FAMOUS than Dunn will ever be (it is the Hall of FAME)

EDIT: Looking at their pages a bit closer, I'll give you Rice as being very questionable (or really, beyond questionable), but The Hawk looks like a HOF'er to me, and from my memory of when he was playing, he fits the "Fame" part pretty well, also.
8/7/2013 6:22 PM
You're using Colin cowherd "fame" argument? The hall of fame is for the best players, not the most famous.

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