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1/1/2014 8:13 PM
The Baseball Think Factory has tallied actual HOF ballot's as writers release them online.  If these totals hold true, this could be a tremendous HOF class to go along with the 3 managers elected by the Expansion Era committee.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/newsstand/discussion/the_2013_hof_ballot_collecting_gizmo
1/2/2014 12:01 PM

Updated: Jan.2 - 6:00 ~ 101 Full Ballots ~ (17.8% of vote ~ based on last year)

100 - Maddux
97.0 - Glavine
90.0 - F. Thomas
80.2 - Biggio
———————————
72.3 - Piazza
65.3 - Bagwell
62.4 - Jack (The Jack) Morris
56.4 - Raines
44.6 - Bonds
43.6 - Clemens
38.6 - Schilling
34.7 - Mussina
23.8 - Trammell
19.8 - L. Smith
19.8 - E. Martinez
15.8 - McGriff
12.9 - Kent
11.9 - L. Walker
10.9 - McGwire
  8.9 - S. Sosa
  7.9 - R. Palmeiro
  5.0 - Mattingly
———————————
  1.0 - P. Rose (Write-In)

1/2/2014 12:08 PM
Interesting that Thomas has the votes that Piazza and Bagwell don't have.  
1/2/2014 3:50 PM
Posted by Got_Worms on 1/2/2014 12:01:00 PM (view original):

Updated: Jan.2 - 6:00 ~ 101 Full Ballots ~ (17.8% of vote ~ based on last year)

100 - Maddux
97.0 - Glavine
90.0 - F. Thomas
80.2 - Biggio
———————————
72.3 - Piazza
65.3 - Bagwell
62.4 - Jack (The Jack) Morris
56.4 - Raines
44.6 - Bonds
43.6 - Clemens
38.6 - Schilling
34.7 - Mussina
23.8 - Trammell
19.8 - L. Smith
19.8 - E. Martinez
15.8 - McGriff
12.9 - Kent
11.9 - L. Walker
10.9 - McGwire
  8.9 - S. Sosa
  7.9 - R. Palmeiro
  5.0 - Mattingly
———————————
  1.0 - P. Rose (Write-In)

Seeing the %'s of the up-dated vote tallies, is interesting (of course) -&-,
quite simply makes me wanna' point-&-click, & cast some votes, as well.

Considering the "poverty" lines, below Biggio, & Mattingly (-where even
PRose appears as a write-in), eye remain impress'd by an accuracy that
would mirror my votes, too...

No matter what, should the voting hold-up to it's current placements, eye
also cannot wait to see Alex Rodriguez fall below the "poverty" line which
would also deny him access to the Hall-Of-Fame... It's sweet justice which
also validates why others below Biggio, won't impress enough voters...

Forever, man !!!... Am for any Commitee design'd to keep 'em OUT, period.

1/2/2014 7:42 PM
Glavine seems to be getting much more support than most people in these forums believe he should. Glad to see it as he should easily get in on the first try.
1/2/2014 7:50 PM
Posted by Got_Worms on 1/2/2014 7:42:00 PM (view original):
Glavine seems to be getting much more support than most people in these forums believe he should. Glad to see it as he should easily get in on the first try.
Along with Mussina and Schilling
1/2/2014 7:54 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 1/2/2014 7:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Got_Worms on 1/2/2014 7:42:00 PM (view original):
Glavine seems to be getting much more support than most people in these forums believe he should. Glad to see it as he should easily get in on the first try.
Along with Mussina and Schilling
No.
1/2/2014 10:23 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 1/2/2014 7:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 1/2/2014 7:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Got_Worms on 1/2/2014 7:42:00 PM (view original):
Glavine seems to be getting much more support than most people in these forums believe he should. Glad to see it as he should easily get in on the first try.
Along with Mussina and Schilling
No.
Yes.
1/2/2014 10:25 PM
They just posted another update with 5 additional ballots and Glavine, Thomas, Biggio all got slight increases in % & Maddux remained at 100%.
1/3/2014 12:22 AM
edgar has dropped by almost 50% from previous years. I wonder how many ballots have all 10 votes cast?
1/3/2014 4:23 AM

If you look at the first 10 players on the list, other than Jack Morris, all those players have legitimate HOF cases and in most cases, should be 1st ballot HOFers.  Morris will undoubtedly receive support only because it's his last year on the ballot, but let's say a voter leaves him off and votes for the first 9 players on these rankings. 

That leaves 1 spot for Trammell, Schilling, Mussina, McGriff, Walker, Edgar, McGwire, Kent, Sosa, or Palmeiro.

The 10 vote limit has to be abolished before any meaningful voting reform takes place.

1/3/2014 10:26 AM
Hall of Fame is just stupid.

If the players were able to play on the field, their excellence on the field is what should be judged. 

This standard was set in the very first HOF vote when a deplorable turd like Ty Cobb was in the class.


Hall of Fame should mark excellence, yes.  Can mark comendable people, sure.  But also mark history.

Put in Pete Rose.  Put in Marvin Miller.

HOF is just stupid.
1/3/2014 11:39 AM
Posted by Got_Worms on 1/3/2014 4:24:00 AM (view original):

If you look at the first 10 players on the list, other than Jack Morris, all those players have legitimate HOF cases and in most cases, should be 1st ballot HOFers.  Morris will undoubtedly receive support only because it's his last year on the ballot, but let's say a voter leaves him off and votes for the first 9 players on these rankings. 

That leaves 1 spot for Trammell, Schilling, Mussina, McGriff, Walker, Edgar, McGwire, Kent, Sosa, or Palmeiro.

The 10 vote limit has to be abolished before any meaningful voting reform takes place.

Yep.

Yet we will still get guys like Pedro Gomez and Dan Shaughnessy only voting for 5 or 6 guys when there are 16 or 17 players on the ballot with legitimate hall of fame cases.
1/3/2014 11:50 AM
10 votes should be plenty - the only way the voting ever gets "fixed" is we get consensus on how to handle the steroid era and everyone abides by it.  And since so few guys from that era either have hard proof of use or have confessed, that's probably never going to happen unless the consensus is to not worry about it.
1/3/2014 12:31 PM (edited)
Posted by bad_luck on 1/3/2014 11:39:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Got_Worms on 1/3/2014 4:24:00 AM (view original):

If you look at the first 10 players on the list, other than Jack Morris, all those players have legitimate HOF cases and in most cases, should be 1st ballot HOFers.  Morris will undoubtedly receive support only because it's his last year on the ballot, but let's say a voter leaves him off and votes for the first 9 players on these rankings. 

That leaves 1 spot for Trammell, Schilling, Mussina, McGriff, Walker, Edgar, McGwire, Kent, Sosa, or Palmeiro.

The 10 vote limit has to be abolished before any meaningful voting reform takes place.

Yep.

Yet we will still get guys like Pedro Gomez and Dan Shaughnessy only voting for 5 or 6 guys when there are 16 or 17 players on the ballot with legitimate hall of fame cases.
There's nothing wrong with voting for only 5 or 6 guys if you think only 5 or 6 guys are worthy,

My problem with HOF voters is the guys who refuse to vote for somebody their first time on the ballot as a matter or principle.  Those guys should have their voting rights revoked.
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