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3/11/2014 10:26 AM
And that's 60 exit speed, not when it gets to you.
3/11/2014 10:32 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/11/2014 10:22:00 AM (view original):
Sure isn't.   But, if a baseball has to be hit 90 MPH to travel 300 ft, you'd agree that a softball would have to be hit harder, correct?   Assuming that you're not going to say "no" just to argue about something you know is wrong, I think it would be fair to say that I've seen softballs that have an exit speed well in excess of 100 MPH in my league.    Do you think a two-hopper might actually still be going 80 MPH at 65 ft?
Nope, I doubt you've seen two hoppers going any faster than 60 in slow pitch softball.
I suppose we could disagree but that seems pointless.   That equates to about 89 MPH in baseball at 95 ft.    Either way, we've moved from .55 to .73 of a second to react.    Assuming most of the grounders that MLB 3B see are at least 89 MPH, how many BL 3B get hit in the face?
3/11/2014 10:33 AM
Average exit speeds by level and game: http://www.denverhittingclub.com/BatSpeed.html
3/11/2014 10:35 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:26:00 AM (view original):
And that's 60 exit speed, not when it gets to you.

Yeah, now you're simply wrong.

A baseball has to have a 90 MPH exit speed to travel 300 ft.   A softball would HAVE to have a higher exit speed to travel the same distance.   Unless you think I'm playing on a 150 ft fence, you know you're wrong.

3/11/2014 10:35 AM
Avg MLB exit speed: 108
Avg elite college softball: 69
3/11/2014 10:36 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/11/2014 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:26:00 AM (view original):
And that's 60 exit speed, not when it gets to you.

Yeah, now you're simply wrong.

A baseball has to have a 90 MPH exit speed to travel 300 ft.   A softball would HAVE to have a higher exit speed to travel the same distance.   Unless you think I'm playing on a 150 ft fence, you know you're wrong.

How many ground balls travel 300 feet?
3/11/2014 10:37 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:33:00 AM (view original):
Average exit speeds by level and game: http://www.denverhittingclub.com/BatSpeed.html
Do I even need to open that?     I assume you know what "average" means.     Not everyone in my league can hit a softball 300+ ft.   But some can.
3/11/2014 10:38 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:36:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/11/2014 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:26:00 AM (view original):
And that's 60 exit speed, not when it gets to you.

Yeah, now you're simply wrong.

A baseball has to have a 90 MPH exit speed to travel 300 ft.   A softball would HAVE to have a higher exit speed to travel the same distance.   Unless you think I'm playing on a 150 ft fence, you know you're wrong.

How many ground balls travel 300 feet?
Does it matter for exit speed?   The ball hasn't touched the ground at that point.
3/11/2014 10:40 AM
I'll ask again.   A baseball needs an exit speed of 90 MPH to travel 300 ft.     What exit speed is required to hit a softball 300 ft?
3/11/2014 10:42 AM
I'll add that I'm not playing women's college softball.
3/11/2014 10:42 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/11/2014 10:38:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:36:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/11/2014 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:26:00 AM (view original):
And that's 60 exit speed, not when it gets to you.

Yeah, now you're simply wrong.

A baseball has to have a 90 MPH exit speed to travel 300 ft.   A softball would HAVE to have a higher exit speed to travel the same distance.   Unless you think I'm playing on a 150 ft fence, you know you're wrong.

How many ground balls travel 300 feet?
Does it matter for exit speed?   The ball hasn't touched the ground at that point.
So you think ground balls come off the bat at the same speed as home runs?

Wow. Maybe you should take a breath and think about what you're arguing here.
3/11/2014 10:43 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/11/2014 10:42:00 AM (view original):
I'll add that I'm not playing women's college softball.
I'll add that elite women's college fast pitch players are probably better than the guys in your league.
3/11/2014 10:45 AM
Wow...comparing your softball games to Miggy and the MLB.  Congrats on the losing the argument.

Can't believe this is still going on....what a joke.
3/11/2014 10:50 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:42:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/11/2014 10:38:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:36:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/11/2014 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2014 10:26:00 AM (view original):
And that's 60 exit speed, not when it gets to you.

Yeah, now you're simply wrong.

A baseball has to have a 90 MPH exit speed to travel 300 ft.   A softball would HAVE to have a higher exit speed to travel the same distance.   Unless you think I'm playing on a 150 ft fence, you know you're wrong.

How many ground balls travel 300 feet?
Does it matter for exit speed?   The ball hasn't touched the ground at that point.
So you think ground balls come off the bat at the same speed as home runs?

Wow. Maybe you should take a breath and think about what you're arguing here.
Sure.  Do you think they don't?  Do you understand angles/elevation/etc?

Seriously.   Do you think a ball hit 8 ft high could ever clear a fence?   Do you think that it can't be hit just as hard, or harder, as one that does?

Wow is right.
3/11/2014 10:51 AM
Posted by 05nomar05 on 3/11/2014 10:45:00 AM (view original):
Wow...comparing your softball games to Miggy and the MLB.  Congrats on the losing the argument.

Can't believe this is still going on....what a joke.
Another ignorant *******.

It really wasn't the point.    I was simply pointing out that people, even those of considerably less athletic ability, can avoid getting hit the face with a batted ball.
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