Posted by burnsy483 on 5/29/2014 11:29:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 5/29/2014 11:26:00 AM (view original):
Ted Williams just told you that you were wrong. Just walk away now.

And I'm sure the guy who said "concede the long-ball to the pitcher on 2 strikes" actually had no long balls with 2 strikes.  Yup.

He probably did.  You know why?   He recognized a pitch he could crush.   And he did.  

Did it while choking up to boot.

Posted by The Taint on 5/29/2014 11:31:00 AM (view original):
You're wrong, just admit it.

I disagree that all players should choke up and just try to put the ball in play on 2 strikes.  As does pretty much everyone who plays baseball it seems. Everyone's wrong.

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 11:31:00 AM (view original):

Posted by burnsy483 on 5/29/2014 11:29:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 5/29/2014 11:26:00 AM (view original):
Ted Williams just told you that you were wrong. Just walk away now.

And I'm sure the guy who said "concede the long-ball to the pitcher on 2 strikes" actually had no long balls with 2 strikes.  Yup.

You cannot be serious here, can you?

It's sarcasm.

What a moron, right? Horrible.

m.mlb.com/video/v33221515/detoak-cabrera-blasts-solo-homer-off-gray/

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/29/2014 11:32:00 AM (view original):

Posted by burnsy483 on 5/29/2014 11:29:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 5/29/2014 11:26:00 AM (view original):
Ted Williams just told you that you were wrong. Just walk away now.

And I'm sure the guy who said "concede the long-ball to the pitcher on 2 strikes" actually had no long balls with 2 strikes.  Yup.

He probably did.  You know why?   He recognized a pitch he could crush.   And he did.  

So concede the long-ball to the pitcher on 2 strikes unless you see a strike you can hit hard.  Yea, duh.  Doesn't make sense to try to hit home runs on balls you don't think you can hit hard.

Are you really that dense and taking it literally? 

Posted by burnsy483 on 5/29/2014 11:35:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 5/29/2014 11:31:00 AM (view original):
You're wrong, just admit it.

I disagree that all players should choke up and just try to put the ball in play on 2 strikes.  As does pretty much everyone who plays baseball it seems. Everyone's wrong.

This.

All players go up to bat trying to make contact. But all players also sacrifice their rate of contact in order to hit the ball hard.

Why? Because hitting the ball hard is much more effective than hitting the ball softly. And, if they end up striking out, no big deal because an out is an out.

Posted by The Taint on 5/29/2014 11:44:00 AM (view original):
Are you really that dense and taking it literally? 

Taking what literally? Ted's #3?  If yes, what he is he TRYING to say?

He's saying look to make contact.  You don't need to swing from the *** to hit a laser beam or a hr.  Watch Maz's hr in the 60 WS.  If that guy hit an hr just making contact, Adam Dunn certainly can.

NO Hr's or laser beams will ever be hit when someone is striking out.

Home runs (and line drives) are a by-product of a good fundamental swing.  Most major leaguers can take good fundamental swings even with two strikes.

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:01:00 PM (view original):
Home runs (and line drives) are a by-product of a good fundamental swing.  Most major leaguers can take good fundamental swings even with two strikes.

Do players ever miss the ball when they take a good fundamental swing?

Swing hard at pitches you think you can hit hard, including the ones with 2 strikes.  With 2 strikes, also make contact on borderline pitches/good pitches by the pitcher which look like they may be strikes.  That's a good idea, if that's what he meant, that's normal sound baseball.  

If he's saying choke up and put the ball in play, to ignore the opportunity for a long-ball on 2 strikes, I disagree with him.

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:01:00 PM (view original):
Home runs (and line drives) are a by-product of a good fundamental swing.  Most major leaguers can take good fundamental swings even with two strikes.

They should also make those swings on 0 and 1 strike counts too.

It's funny because TW is from a different era when "an out's an out" wasn't an approach to hitting.    Anyone who doesn't see the logic behind his #3 is a proponent of "an out's an out so don't worry about striking out." 

The thing is, TW was a great hitter.   I have no doubt that he could do things that Austin Jackson cannot.   I'm not even sure TW had to apply that approach to hitting to himself.   But, if you don't think it's a good approach, I'm not sure what can convince you that Ted Williams knows more about hitting than you.