Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2014 12:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:01:00 PM (view original):
Home runs (and line drives) are a by-product of a good fundamental swing.  Most major leaguers can take good fundamental swings even with two strikes.

Do players ever miss the ball when they take a good fundamental swing?

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/29/2014 12:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/29/2014 12:04:00 PM (view original):
It's funny because TW is from a different era when "an out's an out" wasn't an approach to hitting.    Anyone who doesn't see the logic behind his #3 is a proponent of "an out's an out so don't worry about striking out." 

The thing is, TW was a great hitter.   I have no doubt that he could do things that Austin Jackson cannot.   I'm not even sure TW had to apply that approach to hitting to himself.   But, if you don't think it's a good approach, I'm not sure what can convince you that Ted Williams knows more about hitting than you.

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2014 12:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:01:00 PM (view original):
Home runs (and line drives) are a by-product of a good fundamental swing.  Most major leaguers can take good fundamental swings even with two strikes.

Do players ever miss the ball when they take a good fundamental swing?

Sure.  Do you think they shouldn't?

Posted by burnsy483 on 5/29/2014 12:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/29/2014 12:07:00 PM (view original):

When I think great hitters, I think Felix Millan.

Posted by burnsy483 on 5/29/2014 12:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/29/2014 12:04:00 PM (view original):
It's funny because TW is from a different era when "an out's an out" wasn't an approach to hitting.    Anyone who doesn't see the logic behind his #3 is a proponent of "an out's an out so don't worry about striking out." 

The thing is, TW was a great hitter.   I have no doubt that he could do things that Austin Jackson cannot.   I'm not even sure TW had to apply that approach to hitting to himself.   But, if you don't think it's a good approach, I'm not sure what can convince you that Ted Williams knows more about hitting than you.

Swing hard at pitches you think you can hit hard, including the ones with 2 strikes.  With 2 strikes, also make contact on borderline pitches/good pitches by the pitcher which look like they may be strikes.  That's a good idea, if that's what he meant, that's normal sound baseball.  

If he's saying choke up and put the ball in play, to ignore the opportunity for a long-ball on 2 strikes, I disagree with him.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2014 12:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2014 12:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:01:00 PM (view original):
Home runs (and line drives) are a by-product of a good fundamental swing.  Most major leaguers can take good fundamental swings even with two strikes.

Do players ever miss the ball when they take a good fundamental swing?

Sure.  Do you think they shouldn't?

Shouldn't? Not sure what you're asking.

Of course players will miss the ball sometimes, it's part of the game. Which is why I think it's dumb to focus on strikeouts when talking about an otherwise productive player. If a guy has a good OBP and/or SLG, it doesn't matter how he makes his outs.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2014 12:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2014 12:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:01:00 PM (view original):
Home runs (and line drives) are a by-product of a good fundamental swing.  Most major leaguers can take good fundamental swings even with two strikes.

Do players ever miss the ball when they take a good fundamental swing?

Sure.  Do you think they shouldn't?

Shouldn't? Not sure what you're asking.

Of course players will miss the ball sometimes, it's part of the game. Which is why I think it's dumb to focus on strikeouts when talking about an otherwise productive player. If a guy has a good OBP and/or SLG, it doesn't matter how he makes his outs.

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/29/2014 12:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by burnsy483 on 5/29/2014 12:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/29/2014 12:04:00 PM (view original):
It's funny because TW is from a different era when "an out's an out" wasn't an approach to hitting.    Anyone who doesn't see the logic behind his #3 is a proponent of "an out's an out so don't worry about striking out." 

The thing is, TW was a great hitter.   I have no doubt that he could do things that Austin Jackson cannot.   I'm not even sure TW had to apply that approach to hitting to himself.   But, if you don't think it's a good approach, I'm not sure what can convince you that Ted Williams knows more about hitting than you.

Swing hard at pitches you think you can hit hard, including the ones with 2 strikes.  With 2 strikes, also make contact on borderline pitches/good pitches by the pitcher which look like they may be strikes.  That's a good idea, if that's what he meant, that's normal sound baseball.  

If he's saying choke up and put the ball in play, to ignore the opportunity for a long-ball on 2 strikes, I disagree with him.

Uh.......remember this?

"If it's something you can handle and/or are looking for, crush it.    If it's not, just try to get a piece of it.

WOW!!   That's an outrageous request for one of the 400ish best position players in baseball.   Outlandish!!!!!!"

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2014 12:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2014 12:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:01:00 PM (view original):
Home runs (and line drives) are a by-product of a good fundamental swing.  Most major leaguers can take good fundamental swings even with two strikes.

Do players ever miss the ball when they take a good fundamental swing?

Sure.  Do you think they shouldn't?

Shouldn't? Not sure what you're asking.

Of course players will miss the ball sometimes, it's part of the game. Which is why I think it's dumb to focus on strikeouts when talking about an otherwise productive player. If a guy has a good OBP and/or SLG, it doesn't matter how he makes his outs.

What should be the goal of a hitter when he steps into the batters box? 

Try to get a HR / XBH, or try to make solid contact?

Or something else?

Solid contact is hitting a ball hard....right?

Posted by The Taint on 5/29/2014 12:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2014 12:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2014 12:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 5/29/2014 12:01:00 PM (view original):
Home runs (and line drives) are a by-product of a good fundamental swing.  Most major leaguers can take good fundamental swings even with two strikes.

Do players ever miss the ball when they take a good fundamental swing?

Sure.  Do you think they shouldn't?

Shouldn't? Not sure what you're asking.

Of course players will miss the ball sometimes, it's part of the game. Which is why I think it's dumb to focus on strikeouts when talking about an otherwise productive player. If a guy has a good OBP and/or SLG, it doesn't matter how he makes his outs.

Would he have a better OBP and or SLG if he cut his strikeouts down by a third and put those balls in play?