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7/25/2014 2:50 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/24/2014 12:22:00 PM (view original):
Well, I said "considered".   I guess you don't consider him to be the best defensive SS of all-time.   Would you like to compile a list?   I think, when talking HOF-caliber, that we can leave out the Gene Michaels, Bud Harrelsons, etc, etc of the world.    Maybe stick to 87+ OPS types.

About 5 minutes after you said Smith wasn't all that.

7/25/2014 2:51 PM
CF get to make long runs and 300 ft throws.   You don't get that in the IF.
7/25/2014 3:41 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 7/25/2014 2:26:00 PM (view original):
Tony Fernandez and Dave Concepcion would be two other guys in that same ballpark (with Ozzie and Reese).  Lou Boudreau had quite the defensive reputation, too, but for some reason I never really looked into it.  Probably has something to do with Nichols' Law of Catcher Defense - if the guy hits, people don't generally expend as much energy praising his defense, and it may be overlooked.  Unless he's a center fielder, apparently, because guys can't get enough of talking about Mays' defense...
Please tell me I am reading this wrong

Are you questioning willie mays defense?
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7/25/2014 4:29 PM
Ok
Good
7/25/2014 6:05 PM
Beltre will get to the hall of fame, and he will deserve it.  You have to compare him with his contemporaries, and with the other players throughout history at his position.  Very good hitter, very good defender, both for a long period of time....Hall of Famer
7/25/2014 9:03 PM
I don't want very good in the HOF
I want the best
he ain't it.
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7/26/2014 7:30 AM
Beltre is Ichiro without the historical significance.
7/26/2014 8:17 AM
they should make a rule: whenever you put someone in, someone must be removed. more judicious selections should be the result
7/26/2014 11:38 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/26/2014 7:30:00 AM (view original):
Beltre is Ichiro without the historical significance.
Wow, if anyone needed further proof you really are clueless when it comes to baseball, here it is.
7/26/2014 12:41 PM
Great,
You throw out an insulting barb
Any "logical" reason his statement is incorrect?

7/26/2014 2:23 PM
BL's M.O.




I blocked him several months ago.   Anyone who creates a username so they can argue on the internet isn't worth my time. 
7/26/2014 7:34 PM
Posted by cobra on 7/26/2014 12:41:00 PM (view original):
Great,
You throw out an insulting barb
Any "logical" reason his statement is incorrect?

The statement that "Beltre is Ichiro?" There's a ton wrong with that. Other than the low walk rates, they are almost complete opposites as players.
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