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12/18/2013 3:24 PM
I have made these comments on here before, but there is a pretty solid chance a 13-3 team in the AFC is going to be on the road in the first round of the playoffs against a 10 win team.  That just seems silly to me.  Playoff seeding should be totally be record.  Division winners should get in the playoffs, but the team with the worst record should never be hosting a playoff game. 
12/18/2013 4:00 PM

Disagree.   If every team had the same schedule, sure.   They don't. 

12/18/2013 5:16 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/18/2013 4:00:00 PM (view original):

Disagree.   If every team had the same schedule, sure.   They don't. 

+1
12/18/2013 7:54 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/18/2013 4:00:00 PM (view original):

Disagree.   If every team had the same schedule, sure.   They don't. 

THIRTY-ONE GAME SEASON!!!
12/18/2013 9:49 PM
Posted by kcden on 12/18/2013 7:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/18/2013 4:00:00 PM (view original):

Disagree.   If every team had the same schedule, sure.   They don't. 

THIRTY-ONE GAME SEASON!!!
+1!

...and 3 games a week!

Wait.... then teams will only play a team at home or on the road.


SIXTY-TWO GAME SEASON!!!

12/19/2013 12:56 AM
If the Chiefs go 13-3 (not a given) it will be because they just happened to play the worst two divisions in the NFL.

If they wanted a playoff home game they should have beaten the Broncos.
12/19/2013 7:21 AM
Posted by kcden on 12/18/2013 7:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/18/2013 4:00:00 PM (view original):

Disagree.   If every team had the same schedule, sure.   They don't. 

THIRTY-ONE GAME SEASON!!!
15 game season.   You know, two conferences.
12/19/2013 7:32 AM
Posted by moranis on 12/18/2013 3:24:00 PM (view original):
I have made these comments on here before, but there is a pretty solid chance a 13-3 team in the AFC is going to be on the road in the first round of the playoffs against a 10 win team.  That just seems silly to me.  Playoff seeding should be totally be record.  Division winners should get in the playoffs, but the team with the worst record should never be hosting a playoff game. 
I would find it silly if KC got a bye this year, which is what would happen in your scenario.  Indy has at least 3 wins on their schedule which are clearly better than anything KC can boast.  Now, obviously in your scenario KC would have to beat Indy, but what if Indy beats KC and then rests players in Week 17, winds up 10-6 while KC is 12-4.  Easy argument to make that Indy's 10-6 is better than KC's 12-4.  And there's a good chance KC would still in a bye position by record alone at 12-4.  Schedules are just way too different from division to division in a given year.

If they wanted to make it NBA style where the division winners get the higher seeds, but record rather than seed determines first round hosting, I could see that. Otherwise, I think you leave it as is.


12/19/2013 9:27 AM
I wouldn't have a problem re-seeding after the first round.   I think 1 plays the winner of 4-5.     If 5 and 6 both win, I see no reason why 1 shouldn't get 6.   6 knew they had to travel anyway.    I guess that could take away some time that 1 had to plan for the next game but such is life.
12/19/2013 9:31 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/19/2013 9:27:00 AM (view original):
I wouldn't have a problem re-seeding after the first round.   I think 1 plays the winner of 4-5.     If 5 and 6 both win, I see no reason why 1 shouldn't get 6.   6 knew they had to travel anyway.    I guess that could take away some time that 1 had to plan for the next game but such is life.
they do that already.
12/19/2013 9:36 AM
Indy had 2 games against Houston, 2 games against Jacksonville, and 2 games against Tennessee.  Sure the NFC west is pretty tough, but their own division is terrible and should give them 6 wins right there. 
12/19/2013 9:41 AM
Posted by moranis on 12/19/2013 9:31:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/19/2013 9:27:00 AM (view original):
I wouldn't have a problem re-seeding after the first round.   I think 1 plays the winner of 4-5.     If 5 and 6 both win, I see no reason why 1 shouldn't get 6.   6 knew they had to travel anyway.    I guess that could take away some time that 1 had to plan for the next game but such is life.
they do that already.
Ha.  They do.  I'm a 'tard.
12/19/2013 10:18 AM
Posted by moranis on 12/19/2013 9:36:00 AM (view original):
Indy had 2 games against Houston, 2 games against Jacksonville, and 2 games against Tennessee.  Sure the NFC west is pretty tough, but their own division is terrible and should give them 6 wins right there. 
KC had a game each against those teams since those divisions played each other.  So, they had 7 games in common (one against each other, 1 each against the 3 teams in each of their divisions)

The remaining 9 games: 
KC: Denver, San Diego, Oakland, Philly, NYG, Dallas, Washington, Buffalo, Cleveland (combined record 54-90)
Indy: Houston, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Seattle, SF, Arizona, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Miami (combined record 65-79)

Yeah, the very bottom of Indy's schedule is awful which drags the overall record down, but there's no comparison at the top - and Indy has actually defeated some of those top tier opponents.


12/19/2013 10:27 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/19/2013 9:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moranis on 12/19/2013 9:31:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/19/2013 9:27:00 AM (view original):
I wouldn't have a problem re-seeding after the first round.   I think 1 plays the winner of 4-5.     If 5 and 6 both win, I see no reason why 1 shouldn't get 6.   6 knew they had to travel anyway.    I guess that could take away some time that 1 had to plan for the next game but such is life.
they do that already.
Ha.  They do.  I'm a 'tard.
+1
12/19/2013 11:55 AM
As an aside - ever since Seattle made the playoffs at 7-9, I've felt this way - if you win your division and you have a losing record, you don't get in.  The next wild card team does.  There's little reason why a team that can't win half their games deserves a playoff spot over teams that go 10-6.  The best WC team gets a home playoff game against the next best wild card team.
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