Journeyman Progressive League-Season #8...FULL Topic

Posted by reddtrain on 2/9/2012 6:07:00 PM (view original):
Count me in with a player with one of the greatest nicknames of all time:

Mickey "Froot Loops" Tettleton

How a guy can play 14 years, catch 70% of all his appearances, put up a career 122 OPS+, and only make 2 All-Star Games baffles me, but there it is.
Welcome reddtrain. Thanks for joining, and that's a great pick. I loved Tettleton when I was a kid. 
2/9/2012 8:58 PM
Stan Javier
1984 NYY (7 games, 7 at bats)    DO I count this season since he wasn't qualified as a rookie.
1986-1989 Oak
1990 Oak-LA
1990-1991 LA
1992  LA - Phil
1993 CAL
1994-1995 Oak
1996-1998 SF
2/15/2012 4:30 PM
Posted by ff09 on 2/15/2012 4:30:00 PM (view original):
Stan Javier
1984 NYY (7 games, 7 at bats)    DO I count this season since he wasn't qualified as a rookie.
1986-1989 Oak
1990 Oak-LA
1990-1991 LA
1992  LA - Phil
1993 CAL
1994-1995 Oak
1996-1998 SF
Welcome. Thanks for joining. 
2/16/2012 1:28 AM
thanks!   im assuming I count his 84 season even though he didn't have enough at bats to qualify as a rookie?
2/16/2012 7:22 AM
Posted by ff09 on 2/16/2012 7:22:00 AM (view original):
thanks!   im assuming I count his 84 season even though he didn't have enough at bats to qualify as a rookie?
My understanding (and the commish can correct me if I'm wrong) is that only WIS-eligible seasons count - so Javier's first season for these purposes would be 1986 (you have to have your journeyman on your roster).
2/16/2012 12:18 PM
that makes sense
2/16/2012 3:36 PM

Hi,

I have a few questions about the league.  My main question is whether it really fits the theme of the league to allow players that did not play on 4 different teams during the 12 seasons that will be used (the example of Tino Martinez was used earlier)?  Can you clarify to all players on the forum whether this is allowed or not?

2) Specsman said he would take Tino Martinez but specsman and Tino Martinez are not on the list of teams/journeyman.

3) When twisting players, can you play seasons of a twisted player that precede the journeyman's rookie year?

4) Are twisted players that appear on a team roster of your journeyman during a particular season at baseball-reference website eligible to be on a team or do they also have to be WIS eligible during that same season.  Which criteria determines eligibility or must both criteria be met?

I will enter a team but will submit a journeyman pending answers to these questions .

2/16/2012 5:23 PM
Posted by cmb0315 on 2/16/2012 5:23:00 PM (view original):

Hi,

I have a few questions about the league.  My main question is whether it really fits the theme of the league to allow players that did not play on 4 different teams during the 12 seasons that will be used (the example of Tino Martinez was used earlier)?  Can you clarify to all players on the forum whether this is allowed or not?

2) Specsman said he would take Tino Martinez but specsman and Tino Martinez are not on the list of teams/journeyman.

3) When twisting players, can you play seasons of a twisted player that precede the journeyman's rookie year?

4) Are twisted players that appear on a team roster of your journeyman during a particular season at baseball-reference website eligible to be on a team or do they also have to be WIS eligible during that same season.  Which criteria determines eligibility or must both criteria be met?

I will enter a team but will submit a journeyman pending answers to these questions .

Tino is not eligible, I have already informed specsman of that via sitemail, and no, those players don't fit the criteria. 

When twisting a teammate, you can use any WIS eligible season of his, so long as he was on the same team for one game as your Journeyman during the season we are currently in.

BBRef determines eligilibility, if a guy had 1 plate appearance as a teammate of your journeyman in season 1, you can use any season of his career. 

Thanks for asking. 
2/16/2012 10:01 PM
Posted by reddtrain on 2/16/2012 12:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ff09 on 2/16/2012 7:22:00 AM (view original):
thanks!   im assuming I count his 84 season even though he didn't have enough at bats to qualify as a rookie?
My understanding (and the commish can correct me if I'm wrong) is that only WIS-eligible seasons count - so Javier's first season for these purposes would be 1986 (you have to have your journeyman on your roster).
Correct
2/16/2012 10:31 PM
Thanks for answer.  I am in with Jay Howell.  Will you send the league ID via sitemail so I can draft my team?

1982 New York Yankees
1983 New York Yankees
1984 New York Yankees
1985 Oakland Athletics
1986 Oakland Athletics
1987 Oakland Athletics
1988 Los Angeles Dodgers
1989 Los Angeles Dodgers
1990 Los Angeles Dodgers
1991 Los Angeles Dodgers
1992 Los Angeles Dodgers
1993 Atlanta Braves
2/16/2012 10:47 PM
Posted by cmb0315 on 2/16/2012 10:47:00 PM (view original):
Thanks for answer.  I am in with Jay Howell.  Will you send the league ID via sitemail so I can draft my team?

1982 New York Yankees
1983 New York Yankees
1984 New York Yankees
1985 Oakland Athletics
1986 Oakland Athletics
1987 Oakland Athletics
1988 Los Angeles Dodgers
1989 Los Angeles Dodgers
1990 Los Angeles Dodgers
1991 Los Angeles Dodgers
1992 Los Angeles Dodgers
1993 Atlanta Braves
I have not created the league yet, as I've been waiting to see how many teams are going to sign up. I will be sending a league sitemail this weekend to discuss # of teams. Thanks for joining. 
2/17/2012 12:31 AM
Actually, according to BBRef, Jay Howell made the All Star team in 85, 87, and 89, so he would not be eligible per the rules. 
2/17/2012 12:33 AM

Found a new player that qualifies:  Tommy Davis

1960 Los Angeles Dodgers
1961 Los Angeles Dodgers
1962 Los Angeles Dodgers
1963 Los Angeles Dodgers
1964 Los Angeles Dodgers
1965 Los Angeles Dodgers
1966 Los Angeles Dodgers
1967 New York Mets
1968 Chicago White Sox
1969 Houston Astros/Seattle Pilots
1970 Houston Astros/Chicago Cubs/Oakland A's
1971 Oakland A's

Look forward to this league.  It will be a great challenge.

2/18/2012 4:58 AM
Posted by cmb0315 on 2/18/2012 4:58:00 AM (view original):

Found a new player that qualifies:  Tommy Davis

1960 Los Angeles Dodgers
1961 Los Angeles Dodgers
1962 Los Angeles Dodgers
1963 Los Angeles Dodgers
1964 Los Angeles Dodgers
1965 Los Angeles Dodgers
1966 Los Angeles Dodgers
1967 New York Mets
1968 Chicago White Sox
1969 Houston Astros/Seattle Pilots
1970 Houston Astros/Chicago Cubs/Oakland A's
1971 Oakland A's

Look forward to this league.  It will be a great challenge.

Awesome, welcome. 
2/18/2012 9:34 AM
this seems interesting - I like journeyman leagues - but I have not done progressives in ages

let me understand what you do when the focal player plays for two teams in a season - say the Giants and the Dodgers - do you have to use guys only from one team or the other or can you use anyone who was a teammate?  I saw a statement about such years, but did not understand the answer - sorry
2/20/2012 3:39 PM
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