12 x 12 v3 - A.L. Draft Thread Topic

1953 Dobson
5/29/2013 1:12 PM
ROUND 11        
Owner________ Prev. Salary___ Player________ Salary_______ New Salary____
dcmatcheck 33,313,347 96 Urbina 2,488,377 35,801,724
Aklopp 34,481,378 76 Cooper 3,132,472 37,613,850
scthallfan 34,658,682 39 Dobson 1,403,115 36,061,797
good_beef 35,031,655 49 Doby 5,279,061 40,310,716
mllama54 35,517,869 03 Alou 3,714,540 39,232,409
Donburgh 36,385,505 65 Duren 658,735 37,044,240
shysters3 38,325,711 58 Drysdale 6,156,341 44,482,052
njbigwig 39,975,222 90 Montgomery 2,549,161 42,524,383
marlowe 40,190,704 92 Blauser 2,459,921 42,650,625
schwarze 43,924,467 35 Murphy 2,822,889 46,747,356
BastanRedsox 44,162,415 53 Dobson 2,177,287 46,339,702
zephyr1949 45,149,195 63 Duren 1,893,657 47,042,852
5/29/2013 1:51 PM
Hitting Howard Cooper Cey Blauser Alou Doby
--------------------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------
dcmatcheck 1957 1973 1979 1995 2006 1959
Aklopp 1962 1976 1984 1991 2005 1953
scthallfan 1961 1986 1987 1997 2007 1956
good_beef 1956 1980 1973 1988 1997 1949
mllama54 1967 1979 1975 1994 2003 1948
Donburgh 1963 1984 1977 1996 1993 1959
shysters3 1964 1975 1976 1993 2002 1954
njbigwig 1955 1987 1980 1999 2000 1957
marlowe 1959 1983 1981 1992 1995 1951
schwarze 1967 1981 1985 1987 1992 1950
BastanRedsox 1958 1982 1974 1989 1998 1955
zephyr1949 1966 1978 1983 1990 1994 1952
             
Pitching Drysdale Dobson Murphy Duren Urbina Montgomery
--------------------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------
dcmatcheck 1965 1949 1938 1959 1996 1999
Aklopp 1969 1947 1943 1962 2002 1997
scthallfan 1968 1939 1942 1964 2005 1988
good_beef 1966 1943 1947 1961 2003 1998
mllama54 1957 1940 1941 1957 2001 1992
Donburgh 1956 1948 1934 1965 1997 1996
shysters3 1958 1942 1940 1965 2005 1994
njbigwig 1962 1952 1937 1960 2003 1990
marlowe 1963 1941 1939 1958 1999 1995
schwarze 1964 1946 1935 1961 1998 1991
BastanRedsox 1959 1953 1946 1964 2001 1989
zephyr1949 1960 1951 1936 1963 2004 1993
5/29/2013 1:51 PM
The draft has ended.
5/29/2013 1:53 PM
Here is my lineup and pitching.  Blue indicates nominated players, black indicates teammates.  I ended up using 12 teammates.

I have to platoon at catcher.  I'm a little light in "good" innings as I really only have 3 decent RPs (Montgomery will pitch in losses, mostly) .  I'll probably have to spot-start a crappy version of Dobson a couple of times to keep my SPs (only 970 IP) fresh.

Playing in Dodger Stadium, doubles and triples get surpressed, so I wanted my hitters to walk and hit home runs.  There are enough pitchers in this league who allow HRs that I don't think my HR hitters will underachieve too much.  I tried to avoid drafting pitchers that allow HRs and think I did a decent job of doing so.  My defense is better than average, especially in the infield. 

Player__________ Pos Bats PA162 HR_ AVG#_ OBP#_ SLG#_ OPS#_ DEF_ SALARY_ Teammate
Pesky, Johnny SS L 740 2 0.339 0.401 0.436 0.837 B/B- 6,944,301 '46 Dobson
Murphy, Dale RF R 698 44 0.296 0.417 0.569 0.986 C/C+ 6,626,392 '87 Blauser
Doby, Larry CF L 641 25 0.322 0.427 0.534 0.961 B+/A 7,576,109 '50 Doby
Williams, Ted LF L 707 38 0.346 0.498 0.676 1.173 C/C+ 10,382,226 '46 Dobson
Rosen, Al 3B R 703 37 0.283 0.391 0.533 0.923 A/C+ 6,494,454 '50 Doby
Cooper, Cecil 1B L 674 12 0.323 0.367 0.500 0.868 C+/A- 5,596,374 '81 Cooper
Sandberg, Ryne 2B R 678 26 0.311 0.369 0.509 0.878 B+/A- 7,522,180 '75 Cey
Averill, Earl C R 395 21 0.270 0.384 0.483 0.866 B+/A/C- 3,284,872 '61 Duren
Henley, Bob C R 132 3 0.305 0.376 0.455 0.831 A/B+/C+ 1,304,611 '98 Urbina
Totals / Average     5368 208 0.313 0.407 0.530 0.938   55,731,519  
                       
                       
Pitcher Team Thr IP162 ERC# OAV# WHIP# HR9# BB9# K9# SALARY Teammate
Koufax, Sandy SP L 223 1.78 0.196 0.97 0.49 2.34 7.42 8,494,888 '64 Drysdale
Drysdale, Don SP R 322 2.03 0.211 1.01 0.39 2.09 5.77 11,355,871 '64 Drysdale
Martinez, Dennis SP R 227 2.36 0.217 1.06 0.48 2.45 5.13 7,080,069 '92 Alou
Saberhagen, Bret SP R 197 2.46 0.229 1.07 0.47 2.00 5.48 5,870,372 '91 Montgomery
                       
Fingers, Rollie RP R 116 1.54 0.201 0.89 0.33 1.52 7.13 4,635,067 '81 Cooper
Urbina, Ugueth RP R 70 1.52 0.157 1.00 0.20 4.20 7.97 3,209,586 '98 Urbina
Monbouquette, Bill RP R 136 2.59 0.258 1.10 0.37 1.17 3.35 3,547,297 '67 Howard
Montgomery, Jeff RP R 90 3.09 0.247 1.23 0.52 2.73 6.55 2,225,647 '91 Montgomery
Totals / Average     1381 2.16 0.216 1.03 0.42 2.19 5.93 46,418,797  
5/29/2013 3:42 PM (edited)
Pos PA/162 HR SB AVG OBP SLG $ Teammate
Paul Molitor '79 (R) 2B* 650 9 33 0.322 0.372 0.469 6.50M Cooper
Lou Boudreau '48 (R) SS* 707 18 3 0.355 0.453 0.534 10.30M Doby
Carl Yastrzemski '67 (L) LF* 680 44 10 0.326 0.418 0.622 8.42M Howard
Joe Dimaggio '41 (R) CF* 654 30 4 0.357 0.440 0.643 9.69M Murphy
Cecil Cooper '79 (L) 1B* 665 24 15 0.308 0.364 0.508 5.72M  
Ron Cey '75 (R) 3B* 662 25 5 0.283 0.372 0.473 5.30M  
Larry Doby '48 (L) RF* 523 14 9 0.301 0.384 0.490 4.00M  
Moises Alou '03 (R) RF* 638 22 3 0.280 0.357 0.462 3.71M  
Hal W. Smith '57 (R) C * 405 13 2 0.303 0.326 0.483 3.43M Duren
Elston Howard '67 (R) C * 345 4 0 0.178 0.233 0.244 2.02M  
    5929 203 84       59.09  
Starters IP/162 ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 $    
Bob Feller '40 (R) 337 2.61 0.210 1.13 7.34 3.32 11.88M   Dobson
Andy Messersmith '75 (R) 322 2.29 0.213 1.06 5.97 2.69 9.95M   Cey
Greg Maddux '94 (R) 288 1.56 0.207 0.90 6.95 1.38 13.31M   Blauser
Don Drysdale '57 (R) 233 2.69 0.236 1.17 6.03 2.48 6.18M    
  1180           41.32    
BULLPEN                  
Pitcher IP/162 ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 $    
Johnny Murphy '41 (R) 82 1.98 0.237 1.4 3.39 4.68 2.33M    
Rusty Meacham '92 (R) 102 2.74 0.233 1.08 5.68 1.87 3.11M   Montgomery
Don McMahon '67 (R) 110 1.98 0.18 0.99 6.91 3.29 3.32M   Howard
Jeff Montgomery '92 (R) 83 2.18 0.205 1.07 7.54 2.95 2.58M    
  377           11.34   10 Teammates
  1557           111.75   7 Nominees
              8.25    
5/29/2013 3:18 PM
Wow, $111.75 miilion.  I am only using about  $102 million, but that is the downside of using so maany teammates.
5/29/2013 3:25 PM

Being in Dodger stadium I was going for good pitching, fielding and speed.  I ended up with good pitching ,good fielding and power.  Getting Maddux's 1994, Feller's 1940, and Messersmith's 1975 gave me great SP with an adequate Drysdale to allow me to stretch out the other three.  4 decent (not great relievers) give me over 1500 innings of pitching.  My defense is solid with A range in 3 of my 4 infielders, and A+ with Dimaggio in the OF.  My 3, 4, 5 hitters will be Yaz's triple crown year, Dimaggio's 41 season, and Boudreau's 48 season.  Molitor will need to bat leadoff, with 300 hitters except for Cey filling out the lineup.  A hole at catcher with only 405 PA's for Hal Smith.

I used 10 temaates and 7 nominees of playable 111.75 million.  I wasted 8.25 on the other 8 players.  I think I have a shot but I am a terrible predictor and usually jinx myself. I have never used the 67 Yaz or 41 Dimaggio years before.  Should be interesting.

5/29/2013 3:29 PM
Here is mine for anyone that is interested. It's not what I envisioned in the beginning but it was my first draft using this format. My bullpen is nicknamed "the pyromaniacs". Ihave a great pair of aces with 95 Maddux and 65 Koufax. Unlike schwarz's Dobson, mine will take the mound every fourth game and the fans in the rightfield stands can expect alot of souveniers on those days. Drysdale will give up a lot of runs but he'll drive in a few, too. I used 7 teammates in my starting lineup, the only nominated player to start was Cey. I was hoping to pick up a fourth starter with my Cey pick, but by the time I got around to it, I couldn't afford it.

Name (Bats) Pos Order % PA AB/ HR RBI SB AVG OBP SLG $
Carl Yastrzemski '73 (L). 1B* 1 100 652 540 19 95 9 .296 .407 .463 4.80M
Al Kaline '59 (R). RF* 2 100 626 538 27 94 10 .327 .410 .530 7.77M
Mickey Mantle '57 (S) CF* 3 100 656 499 34 94 16 .365 .512 .665 11.55M
Ted Williams '49 (L) LF* 4 100 768 596 43 159 1 .343 .490 .650 10.43M
Vern Stephens '49 (R). SS* 5 100 748 642 39 159 2 .290 .391 .539 6.83M
Bill Dickey '38 (L) C * 6 100 567 483 27 115 3 .313 .412 .568 5.56M
Ray Durham '06 (S) 2B* 7 100 559 502 26 93 7 .293 .360 .538 5.02M
Ron Cey '79 (R) 3B* 8 100 579 487 28 81 3 .281 .389 .499 4.39M

Pitching

Pitcher Role. %. G W-L SV IP/162 ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 $
Joe Dobson '49 (R) 100 33 14-12-2 224.0 3.85 .269 1.49 3.69 4.11 4.73M
Don Drysdale '65 (R) 100 44 23-12-1 309.0 2.77 .232 1.09 6.14 1.93 10.16M
Sandy Koufax '65 (L) 100 43 26-8 -2 336.0 2.04 .179 0.86 10.25 1.91 14.04M
Greg Maddux '95 (R) 100 28 19-2 -0 236.0 1.63 .197 0.81 7.78 0.99 10.84M
BULLPEN
Pitcher Role % G W-L SV IP/162 ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 $
Jeff Montgomery '99 (R) 100 49 1-4 12 52.0 6.84 .341 1.82 4.76 3.71 559K
Johnny Murphy '38 (R) 100 32 8-2 11 98.0 4.24 .256 1.44 4.25 4.05 2.21M
Bobby Shantz '59 (L) 100 33 7-3 3 100.0 2.38 .189 1.03 6.30 3.15 3.65M
Ryne Duren '59 (R) 100 41 3-6 14 81.0 1.88 .181 1.21 11.32 5.07 2.39M
Ugueth Urbina '96 (R) 100 33 10-5 0 114.0 3.71 .234 1.28 8.53 3.47 2.49M
Mel Rojas '96 (R) 100 74 7-4 36 81.0 3.22 .193 1.04 10.22 3.11 2.93M
5/29/2013 3:48 PM (edited)
Posted by mllama54 on 5/29/2013 3:29:00 PM (view original):

Being in Dodger stadium I was going for good pitching, fielding and speed.  I ended up with good pitching ,good fielding and power.  Getting Maddux's 1994, Feller's 1940, and Messersmith's 1975 gave me great SP with an adequate Drysdale to allow me to stretch out the other three.  4 decent (not great relievers) give me over 1500 innings of pitching.  My defense is solid with A range in 3 of my 4 infielders, and A+ with Dimaggio in the OF.  My 3, 4, 5 hitters will be Yaz's triple crown year, Dimaggio's 41 season, and Boudreau's 48 season.  Molitor will need to bat leadoff, with 300 hitters except for Cey filling out the lineup.  A hole at catcher with only 405 PA's for Hal Smith.

I used 10 temaates and 7 nominees of playable 111.75 million.  I wasted 8.25 on the other 8 players.  I think I have a shot but I am a terrible predictor and usually jinx myself. I have never used the 67 Yaz or 41 Dimaggio years before.  Should be interesting.

I have never used Boudreau's 1948 season and am envious. Nice draft!
5/29/2013 3:52 PM
Thanks.  Actually when you took the 2006 Alou just before me in Round 9 what I was planning went up in smoke.  I had to readjust and it actually worked out better.  

The sad part is I believe the Indians from the late 40's and early 50's should have been one of the dynasty's in baseball history.  It never proved out then in champiosnships or for me here in WIS either.  I have used them a number of times with so-so results.  I hope Boudreau\Doby\Feller work out better this time. 
5/29/2013 4:15 PM
Here is my lineup.  I may use some guys out of position as substitutes.

Name (Bats) Pos Order % PA/162 AB/162 HR RBI SB AVG OBP SLG $
Bobby Avila '51 (R) 2B* 1 100 647 571 10 58 14 .304 .374 .410 5.53M 
Robin Yount '83 (R) SS* 2 100 662 578 17 80 12 .308 .383 .503 6.34M 
Ted Williams '41 (L) LF* 3 100 636 480 37 120 2 .406 .551 .735 12.72M 
Mickey Mantle '58 (S) CF* 4 100 688 546 42 97 18 .304 .443 .592 7.78M 
Joe Dimaggio '39 (R) RF* 5 100 563 496 30 126 3 .381 .448 .671 9.64M 
Cecil Cooper '83 (L) 1B* 6 100 710 661 30 126 2 .307 .341 .508 5.53M 
Bill Dickey '39 (L) C * 7 100 607 515 24 105 5 .302 .403 .513 5.08M 
Ron Cey '81 (R) 3B* 8 100 529 460 13 50 0 .288 .372 .474 4.26M 
 BENCH
Name (Bats) Pos Order % PA/162 AB/162 HR RBI SB AVG OBP SLG $
Moises Alou '95 (R) LF* Bench 100 435 387 14 58 4 .273 .342 .459 2.48M 
Jeff Blauser '92 (R) SS* Bench 100 403 343 14 46 5 .262 .354 .458 2.46M 
Larry Doby '51 (L) LF* Bench 100 580 471 20 69 4 .295 .428 .512 5.40M 
Elston Howard '59 (R) 1B* Bench 100 499 467 18 73 0 .273 .306 .476 3.09M 
Terry Jones '99 (S) LF* Bench 100 66 63 0 3 1 .270 .303 .317 414K 
Jose Lind '95 (R) 2B* Bench 100 114 110 0 6 0 .268 .290 .299 423K

I plan to alternate Smith and Rueter as spot starters.

Don Drysdale '63 (R) 100 42 19-17 0 316.0 2.63 .242 1.09 7.17 1.63 8.27M
Sandy Koufax '63 (L) 100 40 25-5 0 311.0 1.88 .189 0.87 8.86 1.68 12.22M
Fernando Valenzuela '81 (L) 100 25 13-7 0 284.0 2.48 .205 1.05 8.44 2.86 9.68M
Pete Smith '92 (R) 100 12 7-0 0 79.0 2.05 .217 1.15 4.90 3.19 2.16M
 BULLPEN
Pitcher Role % G W-L SV IP/162 ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 $
Joe Dobson '41 (R) 100 27 12-5 0 142.0 4.49 .262 1.51 4.63 4.50 2.88M
Kirk Rueter '95 (L) 100 9 5-3 0 54.0 3.23 .224 1.00 5.36 1.72 1.60M
Ryne Duren '58 (R) 100 44 6-4 20 80.0 2.02 .157 1.10 10.39 5.14 2.68M
Ugueth Urbina '99 (R) 100 71 6-6 41 76.0 3.69 .208 1.26 11.95 4.30 2.35M
Jeff Montgomery '95 (R) 100 54 2-3 31 74.0 3.43 .252 1.30 6.75 3.44 1.68M
Johnny Murphy '39 (R) 100 38 3-6 19 66.0 4.40 .252 1.39 4.43 4.13 1.57M
Bobby Shantz '59 (L) 100 33 7-3 3 100.0 2.38 .189 1.03 6.30 3.15 3.65M
5/29/2013 4:57 PM
 
Player PA AVG# OBP# SLG# Fldg Sal
62 E Howard 538 0.283 0.319 0.468 A/A-/A+ 4.74
76 B Montgomery 99 0.25 0.287 0.409 C+/D/C+ 0.83
62 S Bilko 198 0.291 0.376 0.494 A-/D- 1.24
76 C Cooper 200 0.285 0.308 0.468 B/C+ 1.3
84 R Sandberg 705 0.318 0.372 0.527 A/B+ 7.98
53 A Rosen 724 0.336 0.417 0.612 B+/A- 10.15
97 J Bell 665 0.287 0.362 0.437 A/B- 5.95
53 L Doby 650 0.263 0.381 0.487 B/B+ 5.68
47 T Williams 729 0.347 0.496 0.643 C/C+ 10.11
62 M Mantle 502 0.325 0.488 0.599 C+/C+ 6.23
05 M Alou 490 0.321 0.399 0.501 D/C 3.76

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Total 5500 0.308 0.398 0.531
 
57.97

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Pitcher IP ERC# OAV# BB/9# HR/9# Sal
69 B Singer 316 2.29 0.216 2.09 0.58 10.11
43 S Chandler 267 2.03 0.221 1.85 0.23 9.96
02 D Lowe 220 1.99 0.210 1.97 0.36 7.63
02 P Martinez 200 1.85 0.197 1.8 0.43 7.93
43 J Murphy 72 2.13 0.189 3.84 0.34 2.22
91 J Berenguer 65 2.16 0.195 2.8 0.66 2.02
05 M Cain 47 1.53 0.151 3.66 0.61 1.89
02 U Urbina 60 2.33 0.201 2.99 0.92 1.84
97 J Montgomery 60 3.02 0.235 2.62 1.06 1.41
47 J Dobson 100 3.02 0.242 2.61 0.64 2.6

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Total 1407 2.18 0.211 2.26 0.49 47.61

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Usable Sal 105.58

Red values are pro-rated, projected PA/IP. Alou will spend some time at 1st.
5/29/2013 5:58 PM
There are going to be a lot of slugfests in this league.
5/29/2013 9:49 PM (edited)
Here is some data on the nominated players and their teammates...

Nominated Player Teammates Salary
Joe Dobson 14 110,377,459
Johnny Murphy 15 100,957,317
Elston Howard 14 99,844,143
Larry Doby 13 92,617,856
Don Drysdale 12 81,548,224
Jeff Blauser 13 80,238,148
Ron Cey 12 78,763,924
Cecil Cooper 12 66,798,274
Ugueth Urbina 13 59,932,489
Moises Alou 13 58,640,622
Jeff Montgomery 12 54,633,669
Ryne Duren 13 49,458,617
Total 156 933,810,742
5/31/2013 3:03 PM
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