You think Friedman's comments based on what was going on 30+ years ago are relevant in a discussion about NCLB which was not implemented until the 2000s?
You are opposed to promoting working collaboratively? You are opposed to not allowing bullying or discrimination? Do parents share any responsibility for the attitudes and beliefs of their children when they come to school? Look at the Preamble...should we not be encouraging and promoting those things?

I am opposed to things that are not working.

This is not my subject, so I have to fall back on the writings of someone who did research it.

As far as I can see nothing has changed in the education system. NCLB was an attempt to fix a failed system. The same failings that were documented in the artical I read.

THIS IS THE IMPORTANT QUESTION...PLEASE ANSWER THIS....Do you think that the problems that Freidman addressed have dissappeared since the 80s?

So Friedman is suggesting that teachers should be required to take vows of poverty like nuns, and live collectively in cloistered communities? That's a great solution. I do not believe that the free and unfettered market is the solution. Sorry, I do not worship at that altar. As for vouchers, I would support them with the understanding that a voucher be accepted as payment in full for tuition at any school that is willing to accept it.

I work at a school where tuition is $25,000+, but it is mostly paid by corporations. I am well compensated, and have my housing paid for, plus other nice benefits. I would take a huge cut to work in public schools again, which I have no desire to do. Less regulation...absolutely. Hold parents accountable for their children...absolutely. But I take exception to Friedman's attack on teachers, that they are not to be trusted as professionals. Why doesn't he say the same thing about doctors or lawyers?

Just out of curiosity, how do you justify working at Comcast, a near monopoly in many cities and communities, with special licenses granted by government giving them that authority. I would think that out of your strong libertarian principles you would quit a job that benefits from government largesse.

NEVAH!

Posted by seamar_116 on 5/23/2012 6:52:00 PM (view original):
So Friedman is suggesting that teachers should be required to take vows of poverty like nuns, and live collectively in cloistered communities? That's a great solution. I do not believe that the free and unfettered market is the solution. Sorry, I do not worship at that altar. As for vouchers, I would support them with the understanding that a voucher be accepted as payment in full for tuition at any school that is willing to accept it.

I work at a school where tuition is $25,000+, but it is mostly paid by corporations. I am well compensated, and have my housing paid for, plus other nice benefits. I would take a huge cut to work in public schools again, which I have no desire to do. Less regulation...absolutely. Hold parents accountable for their children...absolutely. But I take exception to Friedman's attack on teachers, that they are not to be trusted as professionals. Why doesn't he say the same thing about doctors or lawyers?

Just out of curiosity, how do you justify working at Comcast, a near monopoly in many cities and communities, with special licenses granted by government giving them that authority. I would think that out of your strong libertarian principles you would quit a job that benefits from government largesse.

The only cable I'm allowed at my condominium complex is Comcast.

"Just out of curiosity, how do you justify working at Comcast, a near monopoly in many cities and communities, with special licenses granted by government giving them that authority. I would think that out of your strong libertarian principles you would quit a job that benefits from government largesse."

Almost everyone has a choice of TV service providers.

Some Condos and Apartments make deals and allow only one service, that is a market force deal.

MAny cities have a cable monopoly. It wasnt us, it was the city. They get paid for that benefit.

Move to Warren Michigan...2 cable companies and ATT U-Verse.

Two is not much of a choice Swamp. Come on admit it, you like suckling at the teat of government largesse. Adam Smith called for free entry into the market for both buyers and sellers. The cable industry and the arrangements they have with local governments does not live up to Smith's principles.

You must post nudes.

Our HOA has no deal. It's just the only one available out here. No dishes allowed on the buildings either.

Posted by seamar_116 on 5/24/2012 6:56:00 PM (view original):
Two is not much of a choice Swamp. Come on admit it, you like suckling at the teat of government largesse. Adam Smith called for free entry into the market for both buyers and sellers. The cable industry and the arrangements they have with local governments does not live up to Smith's principles.

The market cannot support more than 2 cable companies and U-Verse as well as the satelites.

It is true that the Government fails in its free market role.

Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/25/2012 12:00:00 AM (view original):

Posted by seamar_116 on 5/24/2012 6:56:00 PM (view original):
Two is not much of a choice Swamp. Come on admit it, you like suckling at the teat of government largesse. Adam Smith called for free entry into the market for both buyers and sellers. The cable industry and the arrangements they have with local governments does not live up to Smith's principles.

The market cannot support more than 2 cable companies and U-Verse as well as the satelites.

It is true that the Government fails in its free market role.

The market is not given a chance to work...and your company is one of those that does not want competition. This results in higher prices to consumers. And you support that effort. Hypocrite.

Comcast has never pressed for legislation to limit competition.

If a city wants to offer a cable company a monopoly for a payment that is their decision. The people can respond if they choose.

In order to run a cable company you need to lay cable all over town. This is a major undertaking. That is why there are only 2 companies in Warren, even though there could be as many as want to move in.

So I was listening to a left wing talk show host yesterday and he was jumping on a Conservative who mentioned that teachers hould be fired if they are not doing their job.

The host also insisted that the caller explain how teachers be judged.

Is it actually the belief of the left that out of all the jobs in the world, the only one where you cannot be judged for your performance is teaching?

That it is impossible to create a standard for teachers?

Well can someone explain to me what makes the job of teacher special so that every other job in the whole world can be rated, but the work of a teacher is some kind of magical mystery?