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7/19/2012 6:36 PM
I am happy this had a happy ending for everyone except the bad guys. Fortunately the citizen himself was not hurt, nor did he miss and hit anyone else. And of course protecting money, is always worth risking a life.
7/19/2012 6:37 PM
oh, and of course, this has nothing to do with the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. But then I wouldn't expect Swamp to be discerning enough to pick up on the nuances of language and the Constitution.
7/19/2012 11:19 PM
1 Armed criminals are threatening life. Killing them is defense.

2 District of columbia vs Heller and McDonald vs Chicago would disagree with you.
7/20/2012 12:27 AM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/19/2012 11:19:00 PM (view original):
1 Armed criminals are threatening life. Killing them is defense.

2 District of columbia vs Heller and McDonald vs Chicago would disagree with you.
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2 District of columbia vs Heller and McDonald vs Chicago would disagree with you.>>

Or able to actually explain something...citing a legal case explains what exactly???
7/20/2012 12:32 AM
So judicial activists decided to interpret the Constitution in a way not expressly stated by the Founding Fathers. How can you claim support for that yet rail against activist judges?  And what would Rand Paul say about this? You know, the Rand Paul who said that a majority of justices on the Supreme Court don't decide what makes something constitutional.
7/20/2012 1:37 AM
The Constitution actually gives a right to keep and bear arms. How far that goes is an issue for the courts.

Inventing a right like Roe v Wade is activism.
7/20/2012 10:07 AM

Someone outside the mall used a cell phone to capture the evacuation of the Aurora, Colo. theater, where a gunman opened fire during a Friday morning showing of The Dark Knight Rises. Caution, some of the images may be disturbing.

At least 14 people were killed and 50 were wounded when a gunman opened fire during an early Friday morning screening of the new Batman movie at an Aurora, Colorado, theater, Police Chief Dan Oates told reporters.

The man suspected of opening fire on the crowded theater was taken into custody, Oates said.

The identity of the suspect has not immediately been released.

Developing...

Another short update: Channel 9 news in Denver now reports that the youngest victim taken to an area hospital is just 6 years old.

Edit: 15 now confirmed dead.

 

Edit: Correction, all news outlets are reporting 14 again




Hey swamp, you think maybe we need protection from more then bad guys? Who gives guns to crazy people? That is why it is called gun CONTROL!!!!

 

7/20/2012 10:34 AM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/20/2012 1:37:00 AM (view original):
The Constitution actually gives a right to keep and bear arms. How far that goes is an issue for the courts.

Inventing a right like Roe v Wade is activism.
as the second clause to a "well-regulated militia." I realize that linguistics and grammar are arcane subjects for you though, so I don't expect you to understand.
7/20/2012 10:56 AM
There is no need for assault and automatic weapons outside the military.  
7/20/2012 11:58 AM
Posted by seamar_116 on 7/20/2012 10:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/20/2012 1:37:00 AM (view original):
The Constitution actually gives a right to keep and bear arms. How far that goes is an issue for the courts.

Inventing a right like Roe v Wade is activism.
as the second clause to a "well-regulated militia." I realize that linguistics and grammar are arcane subjects for you though, so I don't expect you to understand.

Again interpeting the exact meaning of a specific clause in the constitution is the job of the SC.

Militia meant something very different than it means today. The National Guard is not a local militia. It is part of the national Defense.

Try to get a group of local people together and train them to act as a militia. I guarantee you will get a call from someone connected to the Federal Government.

7/20/2012 2:21 PM (edited)
Posted by rcrusso on 7/20/2012 10:08:00 AM (view original):

Someone outside the mall used a cell phone to capture the evacuation of the Aurora, Colo. theater, where a gunman opened fire during a Friday morning showing of The Dark Knight Rises. Caution, some of the images may be disturbing.

At least 14 people were killed and 50 were wounded when a gunman opened fire during an early Friday morning screening of the new Batman movie at an Aurora, Colorado, theater, Police Chief Dan Oates told reporters.

The man suspected of opening fire on the crowded theater was taken into custody, Oates said.

The identity of the suspect has not immediately been released.

Developing...

Another short update: Channel 9 news in Denver now reports that the youngest victim taken to an area hospital is just 6 years old.

Edit: 15 now confirmed dead.

 

Edit: Correction, all news outlets are reporting 14 again




Hey swamp, you think maybe we need protection from more then bad guys? Who gives guns to crazy people? That is why it is called gun CONTROL!!!!

 

Because "gun control" laws will be followed by those who mean to break other laws.

Flawless logic by Libs, as always.

7/20/2012 2:14 PM
Posted by occsid on 7/20/2012 10:56:00 AM (view original):
There is no need for assault and automatic weapons outside the military.  
Automatic weapons cannot be sold legally in this country.  The term "assault rifle" is but a term.

7/20/2012 2:17 PM
Posted by seamar_116 on 7/20/2012 12:32:00 AM (view original):
So judicial activists decided to interpret the Constitution in a way not expressly stated by the Founding Fathers. How can you claim support for that yet rail against activist judges?  And what would Rand Paul say about this? You know, the Rand Paul who said that a majority of justices on the Supreme Court don't decide what makes something constitutional.
What is your definition of "judicial activism"?

The argument that the mention of a "well regulated militia" somehow limits the right to bear arms has been shot down time and again.  It is a bad, bad argument.  So bad, that Libs don't really even bother with it any longer.  Did you miss the boat?
7/20/2012 2:20 PM

The laws of this nature are those which forbid to wear arms, disarming those only who are not disposed to commit the crime which the laws mean to prevent. Can it be supposed, that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, and the most important of the code, will respect the less considerable and arbitrary injunctions, the violation of which is so easy, and of so little comparative importance? Does not the execution of this law deprive the subject of that personal liberty, so dear to mankind and to the wise legislator? And does it not subject the innocent to all the disagreeable circumstances that should only fall on the guilty? It certainly makes the situation of the assaulted worse and of the assailants better, and rather encourages than prevents murder, as it requires less courage to attack unarmed than armed persons.

Cesare Beccaria, Crimes and Punishments, 1764.

7/21/2012 12:22 PM
Posted by jclarkbaker on 7/20/2012 2:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by occsid on 7/20/2012 10:56:00 AM (view original):
There is no need for assault and automatic weapons outside the military.  
Automatic weapons cannot be sold legally in this country.  The term "assault rifle" is but a term.

After Clinton passed his gun ban there were a lot of people who were surpised that the weapon they owned was now declared an "Assualt Weapon".
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