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11/11/2012 10:13 AM
Quote post by swamphawk22 on 11/10/2012 2:31:00 PM:
Winning by 2.5% is a landslide?

Winning 26 states to 23 is a landslide.

Solid Electoral win, but not massive by any regards?Not top ten in last 100 years.

So how does this become a landslide?

You could win the top 12  states, according to electoral votes, and be elected President, so this point is irrelevant (wow what a surprise coming from you).
11/11/2012 11:45 AM
It is relevant.

If you are asking if Obama won of course Electoral college is relevant.

If you are asking for a landslide. A mandate from the people, you have to actually look at how many people rejected Obama's view of America.

This can be looked at similar to the 2004 win by Bush. The difference is Bush went up in support and Obama went down.
11/11/2012 4:59 PM (edited)
Posted by swamphawk22 on 11/11/2012 11:45:00 AM (view original):
It is relevant.

If you are asking if Obama won of course Electoral college is relevant.

If you are asking for a landslide. A mandate from the people, you have to actually look at how many people rejected Obama's view of America.

This can be looked at similar to the 2004 win by Bush. The difference is Bush went up in support and Obama went down.



HOW THE **** AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE RETAHD REPAIRS IF YOU JUST KEEP BREAKING MORE ****??!!!!!
11/11/2012 2:14 PM
There is only one way to fix swamp or most republifucks for that matter. 
11/11/2012 4:22 PM
So winning the electoral college by 100 is now a landslide?

The fact that you won the popular by 2 points is irrelevant?

The fact that you won a traditional Dem state like Penn by 5 points isnt important.

You guys won. We aadmit that freely, unlike you guys still fighting 2000.

If you want to declare this a mandate setting landslide we are going to need to talk!
11/11/2012 4:50 PM
Yes, it is since the electoral college is what actually elects the president.  Oh, and the difference between 2000 and 2012 is winning Florida in 2000 would have given Gore the Presidency. Rmoney winning Florida in 2012 would have change the electoral college numbers but would not have given Rmoney a win. 

Now run along and stick pennies in a light socket or something. 
11/11/2012 4:56 PM
Someone doesn't understand the concept of "retahd repairs"
11/11/2012 9:24 PM
Posted by jiml60 on 11/11/2012 10:14:00 AM (view original):
Quote post by swamphawk22 on 11/10/2012 2:31:00 PM:
Winning by 2.5% is a landslide?

Winning 26 states to 23 is a landslide.

Solid Electoral win, but not massive by any regards?Not top ten in last 100 years.

So how does this become a landslide?

You could win the top 12  states, according to electoral votes, and be elected President, so this point is irrelevant (wow what a surprise coming from you).
Forgot to highlight your point:
"Winning 26 states to 23 is a landslide."

This point is irrelevant.
11/11/2012 11:31 PM
Posted by occsid on 11/11/2012 4:50:00 PM (view original):
Yes, it is since the electoral college is what actually elects the president.  Oh, and the difference between 2000 and 2012 is winning Florida in 2000 would have given Gore the Presidency. Rmoney winning Florida in 2012 would have change the electoral college numbers but would not have given Rmoney a win. 

Now run along and stick pennies in a light socket or something. 
I realize that the EC elects presidents. I would never claim that Obama didnt win the election even if he didnt with the pop vote.

This is a different topic. We are talking about how big a win this was.

You can argue that he won a large electoral. It is a part of the picture.

My point is that the pop vote is much better indicator of how America is behind you than EC.

Why would you believe someone who wants to see how America is voting would look at the EC and not the Pop?
11/12/2012 3:34 PM




The more things change, the more they stay the same
11/12/2012 6:57 PM
The more they stay the same.

There is always someone calling Conservatives racists.

There is always someone making a false equivalency.

There is always someone trying to imply that 150 years ago is the same as today.

And there is always an idiot somewhere that cannot address an issue with logic and does it with a cute chart!
11/12/2012 7:07 PM
Yeah, there are no racist anymore. Man are you a dumb ******* piece of ****. 

In the wake of last week's presidential election, thousands of Americans have signed petitionsseeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the United States. The petitions were filed on We the People, a government website.

States with citizens filing include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas. Oddly, folks from Georgia have filed twice. Even stranger, several of the petitions come from states that went for President Barack Obama.

The petitions are short and to the point. For example, a petition from the Volunteer State reads: "Peacefully grant the State of Tennessee to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government." Of all the petitions, Texas has the most signatures so far, with more than 23,000.

Of course, this is mostly a symbolic gesture. The odds of the American government granting any state permission to go its own way are on par with winning the lottery while getting hit by a meteor while seeing Bigfoot while finding gluten-free pizza that tastes like the real thing.

An article from WKRC quotes a University of Louisville political science professor who explained that these petitions aren't uncommon. Similar petitions were filed following the 2004 and 2008 elections. Still, should the petitions garner 25,000 signatures in a month, they will require an official response from the Obama administration.

From the We the People site:

The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. We created We the People because we want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it's sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.

Not everybody who wants to secede is polite enough to write a petition. Peter Morrison, treasurer of the Hardin County (Texas) Republican Party, wrote a post-election newsletter in which he urges the Lone Star State to leave the Union.

"We must contest every single inch of ground and delay the baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists at every opportunity. But in due time, the maggots will have eaten every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic, and therein lies our opportunity... Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government? Let each go her own way in peace, sign a free trade agreement among the states and we can avoid this gut-wrenching spectacle every four years."

11/12/2012 7:18 PM
So just to be clear where is the racism?

And when the same thing happend in 2004 (read the story) was that also a Racist act?

And is the left now making it official that it considers any opposition to Obama and his agenda to be an act of Racism?
11/12/2012 10:16 PM

The following is from The Political Carnival







Dear Red States:

We’re ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we’ve decided we’re leaving.

We in the Blue States intend to form our own country. In case you aren’t aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon [although per my link, Oregon has petitioned for secession since President Obama was re-elected], Washington, Minnesota, Colorado, Michigan, Illinois, New Mexico, and the rest of the Northeast.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of the Enlightened States of America (E.S.A.).

To sum up briefly:

You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get stem cell research and the best beaches.

We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd Akin.

We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Opryland.

We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.

We get Harvard. You get Ole Miss.

We get 85 percent of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama.

We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22% lower than the Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.

With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80% of the country’s fresh water, more than 90% of of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95% of America’s quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners), 90% of all cheese, 90% of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, Cal Tech, and MIT.

With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson, and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

38% of those in the Red States believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% say that Saddam was involved in 9/11, and 61% of you crazy bastards believe you are the people with higher morals than we lefties.

We’re taking the good weed, too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico.

Sincerely,

Citizens of the Enlightened States of America

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