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12/14/2011 11:53 PM
Here's one who is more solid than spectacular.  Mike Marshall `85 is turning in a very good season in amycox67's league -- .325/.378/.483 with 13 HR/61 RBI at the halfway mark, putting him on track for 25 HR/120 RBI, notwithstanding the forum jinx, all for $3.89 MM.  A+ glove at first, A- in the OF.  Not much range.  Enough PA's so there aren't big fatigue issues.  Whenever I find solid full season position players for under $4 MM I remember them, even if they're not great.  Never know when they're going to plug a hole somewhere. 


Mike Marshall '85 (R) LF* 6 93 331 302 13 61 0 .325 .378 .483 3.89M 
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12/15/2011 2:33 AM
01 Mark McLemore averages 75 RC for $3,194,860 or $42.6K/RC.  That isn't too much different than '89 Tim Raines (104RC for $4.5M  or $43.6K/RC).  When you factor in defense they are even closer.
12/15/2011 2:36 AM
Posted by thunder1008 on 12/14/2011 11:53:00 PM (view original):
Here's one who is more solid than spectacular.  Mike Marshall `85 is turning in a very good season in amycox67's league -- .325/.378/.483 with 13 HR/61 RBI at the halfway mark, putting him on track for 25 HR/120 RBI, notwithstanding the forum jinx, all for $3.89 MM.  A+ glove at first, A- in the OF.  Not much range.  Enough PA's so there aren't big fatigue issues.  Whenever I find solid full season position players for under $4 MM I remember them, even if they're not great.  Never know when they're going to plug a hole somewhere. 


Mike Marshall '85 (R) LF* 6 93 331 302 13 61 0 .325 .378 .483 3.89M 
The sim loves alliteration.

I hear '89 Walt Wimwalt and '06 Sammy Strang do pretty well too
12/15/2011 5:30 AM
Not to mention better known cookies like Walt Weiss, Wilie Wilson, Mickey Mantle, Whit Wyatt, Count Campau and Dizzy Dean.
12/15/2011 9:35 AM
Sounds like a good idea for a theme league.
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12/15/2011 2:25 PM
And, like Strang and Chief Roseman and Wally Schang and all those guys, he gets tired.  Some day I'll find a bona fide cookie who gets over 600 PA's and doesn't need to be rested every third or fourth game.  Maybe they'll cut the price of Wade Boggs `88 in half.
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12/15/2011 3:59 PM
I noticed '02 Scott Spiezio has an outsized performance history, tho sample size is low.
12/15/2011 6:32 PM
There goes the alliterative thing again.  Kind of interesting to see the pattern that emerges when you look at these guys as a group.  Mark McLemore `01, Scott Spiezio `02, Sammy Strang `06, Walt Weiss `95, Miller Huggins `13.  All switch hitters.  All infielders with PA's in the neighborhood of 400-550 PA's.  Nearly all have OBP's outsized to their BA's.  Seems like they become cookies for two reasons -- something makes SIM underprice them relative to their real life stats AND they overperform their real life stats -- sort of a double benefit. 

The switch hitting bias has been discussed before.  SIM doesn't seem to do very well pricing players with OBP's that are unusually high relative to rather modest BA's.  Almost as if SIM weights BA too high relative to OBP in its pricing when OBP drives SIM performance more than any other hitting factor.  SIM also seems to undervalue A/A+ fielding relative to A/A+ range.  Not sure where all this musing leads, but if you set your search criteria to switchhitting infielders with 400-550 PA's, A/A+ fielding, lousy range and OBP's at least 125 points higher than BA (especially when BA is under .300), you would find a helluva lot of cookies.  Not to mention the Zubinsum Alliteration Factor.
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12/15/2011 8:52 PM
Posted by thunder1008 on 12/15/2011 6:32:00 PM (view original):
There goes the alliterative thing again.  Kind of interesting to see the pattern that emerges when you look at these guys as a group.  Mark McLemore `01, Scott Spiezio `02, Sammy Strang `06, Walt Weiss `95, Miller Huggins `13.  All switch hitters.  All infielders with PA's in the neighborhood of 400-550 PA's.  Nearly all have OBP's outsized to their BA's.  Seems like they become cookies for two reasons -- something makes SIM underprice them relative to their real life stats AND they overperform their real life stats -- sort of a double benefit. 

The switch hitting bias has been discussed before.  SIM doesn't seem to do very well pricing players with OBP's that are unusually high relative to rather modest BA's.  Almost as if SIM weights BA too high relative to OBP in its pricing when OBP drives SIM performance more than any other hitting factor.  SIM also seems to undervalue A/A+ fielding relative to A/A+ range.  Not sure where all this musing leads, but if you set your search criteria to switchhitting infielders with 400-550 PA's, A/A+ fielding, lousy range and OBP's at least 125 points higher than BA (especially when BA is under .300), you would find a helluva lot of cookies.  Not to mention the Zubinsum Alliteration Factor.
'88 Oquendo and '92 Vizquel might kind fit the mold, though their OBP is low.  Personally my favorite 2B is '94 Lemke.
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