All Forums > Campus Visit v Home Visit recruitment value (Poll)
1/8/2013 5:58 PM
In your opinion, 1 Campus Visit is worth how many Home Visits, in terms of recruitment value?

(Last vote received: 11/25/2013 12:41 PM)
1/9/2013 12:26 PM
40 votes so far and the consensus is... non-existent.

1/9/2013 12:34 PM
Posted by zbrent716 on 1/9/2013 12:26:00 PM (view original):
40 votes so far and the consensus is... non-existent.

Not surprising. Everyone agrees that outside 360, all CV. Probably within 180, all HV. Between that, no one knows and that's why the ratio is sitting between 2 and 2.5.
1/9/2013 1:11 PM
Someone said one time that you could mathmatically figure it out but I don't have any idea what assumptions to use to make a proportion work.
1/9/2013 1:16 PM
Posted by Trentonjoe on 1/9/2013 1:11:00 PM (view original):
Someone said one time that you could mathmatically figure it out but I don't have any idea what assumptions to use to make a proportion work.

We could test it out to get the right ratio by having 2 teams with the same prestige (D prestige with both teams coming off 26/27 loss seasons), recruit the same player at the same distance, one use HV, one use CV, but it's not a fun process and a waste of \$10.

1/9/2013 2:17 PM
Been at this awhile and I've always figured it right at 2.5 with good success. Not sure exactly, but it's sure close to that.
1/9/2013 2:39 PM
At 2.5, it means any recruit outside of 140 miles should be all CV, with HV = \$327 and CV = \$817. It seems a little bit too extreme with HV being cost effective only within 130 miles.
1/9/2013 3:04 PM (edited)
Posted by tianyi7886 on 1/9/2013 1:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Trentonjoe on 1/9/2013 1:11:00 PM (view original):
Someone said one time that you could mathmatically figure it out but I don't have any idea what assumptions to use to make a proportion work.

We could test it out to get the right ratio by having 2 teams with the same prestige (D prestige with both teams coming off 26/27 loss seasons), recruit the same player at the same distance, one use HV, one use CV, but it's not a fun process and a waste of \$10.

would anyone consider this unfair or against fair play guidelines?
1/9/2013 8:52 PM
Posted by tianyi7886 on 1/9/2013 2:39:00 PM (view original):
At 2.5, it means any recruit outside of 140 miles should be all CV, with HV = \$327 and CV = \$817. It seems a little bit too extreme with HV being cost effective only within 130 miles.
That's certainly logical, which makes me think it has no place in this discussion!
1/9/2013 9:30 PM
I have it figured out within .04 of the correct answer...or so I think. By the way, I ain't sharing
1/10/2013 12:09 AM
There's a price jump at 200 miles, remember - the closest 200-mile players are 1024/414 (2.47), while the farthest 190-milers are 823/337 (2.44).  If we put the switchover point right in that gap, at 2.45, I'm seeing a consensus - 61% of respondents would say that you're within about a tenth of the right answer.  That 61% becomes 77% if we discount everyone who said "under 2.0".

"Under 2" people... 359 miles is 1044/446 (2.34), while 370 is 1264/748 (1.69).  Are you seriously staying exclusively HV inside of 360 miles?  Same question to anyone who thinks it's under two-and-a-third, actually.
1/26/2013 3:19 PM
Posted by cornfused on 1/10/2013 12:09:00 AM (view original):
There's a price jump at 200 miles, remember - the closest 200-mile players are 1024/414 (2.47), while the farthest 190-milers are 823/337 (2.44).  If we put the switchover point right in that gap, at 2.45, I'm seeing a consensus - 61% of respondents would say that you're within about a tenth of the right answer.  That 61% becomes 77% if we discount everyone who said "under 2.0".

"Under 2" people... 359 miles is 1044/446 (2.34), while 370 is 1264/748 (1.69).  Are you seriously staying exclusively HV inside of 360 miles?  Same question to anyone who thinks it's under two-and-a-third, actually.
i thought i responded to this like, a week ago. but anyway - yeah - i seriously am staying exclusively with HVs inside of 360 miles. most of the top coaches in the game agree on that point, at least when some sitemails went around on the subject a few years ago - that might have changed.  although i might be the lowest, im terms of actual ratio, with a HV:CV ratio of AT MOST 2:1.
1/26/2013 5:28 PM
good topic, but there is no way I'm voting on this -the author can see who voted what you know...I don't need anyone knowing specifically how I value things in case I have to battle them at some point...

ETA: I guess I could always vote some outrageous value I don't really believe in as subterfuge, but that hardly helps the debate...
1/26/2013 5:42 PM
Posted by cornfused on 1/10/2013 12:09:00 AM (view original):
There's a price jump at 200 miles, remember - the closest 200-mile players are 1024/414 (2.47), while the farthest 190-milers are 823/337 (2.44).  If we put the switchover point right in that gap, at 2.45, I'm seeing a consensus - 61% of respondents would say that you're within about a tenth of the right answer.  That 61% becomes 77% if we discount everyone who said "under 2.0".

"Under 2" people... 359 miles is 1044/446 (2.34), while 370 is 1264/748 (1.69).  Are you seriously staying exclusively HV inside of 360 miles?  Same question to anyone who thinks it's under two-and-a-third, actually.
also, you call that a consensus - but i see 49% of respondents posting a value that implies you should use HV up to 360 miles (2.3 or less). sure doesnt sound like a consensus around the switch over point being 200 miles!
2/16/2013 7:10 PM
brand new to this discussion, but is there any thought to the possibility of diminishing returns?
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