need some pointers for man to man defence Topic

D3 Piedmont in knight, I'm taking over for a very good coach who ran man to man, any baseline ratings for recruiting d3 talent for running the defense? where do I want them to be ratings wise....thank you
3/13/2014 7:18 AM
what can i get away with Ive ran zone and and half court and zone pretty much my entire wis existance
3/13/2014 7:19 AM
Well. You need to be much more careful about including weak defensive players in your lineup; they are much easier to exploit ...
3/13/2014 10:06 AM
First step: look at the players that very good coach recruited.  Second step: aim for that or better.
3/13/2014 10:40 AM
What would be a minimum rating to start with 20 with blue or is that too low? 40? 50? 70? to be in red potential? obviously you want the highest but what could i get by with? 
3/13/2014 10:56 AM
Posted by llamanunts on 3/13/2014 10:40:00 AM (view original):
First step: look at the players that very good coach recruited.  Second step: aim for that or better.
The previous coach was a ghost coach the last season there is what i was told.....he didn't recruit so i have to make up two classes...I don't have a true soph to shoot for
3/13/2014 10:58 AM
39 or below will get you killed. 40-49 is weak. 50-59 is average and serviceable. 60-69 very solid. 70+ is very good.
3/13/2014 11:06 AM
Posted by coachvegas44 on 3/13/2014 11:06:00 AM (view original):
39 or below will get you killed. 40-49 is weak. 50-59 is average and serviceable. 60-69 very solid. 70+ is very good.
is this just as a start out recruiting or is this what i want them to devlope  into?
3/13/2014 11:11 AM
Posted by coachvegas44 on 3/13/2014 11:06:00 AM (view original):
39 or below will get you killed. 40-49 is weak. 50-59 is average and serviceable. 60-69 very solid. 70+ is very good.
That's a solid start.

Don't ignore speed, ath and blk though.   Defense is an equation with the DEF rating only being a part, albeit the biggest part.

With all that being said, defense at D3 can be a touch over rated.   I am a total DEFENSE whore but the offensive guys It's nearly impossible to land a 90 SPD/90 DEF guard at D3 but tons of 90 SPD/90PER guards are around.   I have found that my great defender (70/70/70)  matches up on that guy, the offensive player will take LESS shots and at lower % but they are still really good. 

The great defensive players merely act as speed bumps to the superior offensive players.
3/13/2014 11:33 AM
That's where you want them to end up.  So - if the guy has a starting rating of 20, he'd better have high-high potential *and* something like excellent speed and/or athleticism to complement that.

My mistake before - don't gauge by the players that are currently on that team, if you're talking about Piedmont.  They're not good defenders.  My bad.

3/13/2014 11:35 AM
Posted by llamanunts on 3/13/2014 11:36:00 AM (view original):
That's where you want them to end up.  So - if the guy has a starting rating of 20, he'd better have high-high potential *and* something like excellent speed and/or athleticism to complement that.

My mistake before - don't gauge by the players that are currently on that team, if you're talking about Piedmont.  They're not good defenders.  My bad.

Thanks for the input!
3/13/2014 1:22 PM
Thanks Guys!
3/13/2014 1:23 PM
Here's kind of the way I break down DEF in M2M. Early in their JR season they should be able to be:

D3 - at least 60
D2 - at least 70
Low D1 - around 80
High D1 - around 90

Now there are exceptions to every rule, but this is kind of what I shoot for.
3/13/2014 1:30 PM
Thanks joey
3/13/2014 2:05 PM
Posted by llamanunts on 3/13/2014 11:36:00 AM (view original):
That's where you want them to end up.  So - if the guy has a starting rating of 20, he'd better have high-high potential *and* something like excellent speed and/or athleticism to complement that.

My mistake before - don't gauge by the players that are currently on that team, if you're talking about Piedmont.  They're not good defenders.  My bad.

And if you're starting at such a low rating make sure he has better than average WE or he'll be a three year nuisance and one year productive player
3/13/2014 3:33 PM
need some pointers for man to man defence Topic

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