I think that there should be no current compensation during a player's active career.  

However, I do think that the best result would be the NCAA attempting to settle all suits by agreeing that Universities can purchase insurance policies for all athletes to pay for injury and to allow players to purchase additional coverage for fairly nominal rates (imagine a bloated-*** AFLAC duck).  Also, agree that the players shall receive no compensation for utilization of their images while enrolled, but that the NCAA would be required to compensate players at the close of their eligibility for any sales of jerseys or NCAA logo material that incorporated their likeness or merchandise that clearly identifies the collegiate athlete (jerseys with their number or name attached).  

That way when Ed O'Bannon finds out his likeness is being used on an all-time NCAA basketball video game, while he himself is working the car-lot, then he will entitled to expect royalty payments.  And when currently enrolled player are getting high and doing 360 dunks on whatever game-system kids use these days, then they may expect to receive either future licensing fees paid by the NCAA and/or their alma mater or at least that they have subsidized loss of income/disability insurance.

Most likely the NCAA will just flip everyone off and decide to fight it out for a decade or so, however long they can drag it out.
3/31/2014 4:28 PM
Posted by kmasonbx on 3/29/2014 6:50:00 PM (view original):
That's fine and dandy, but then don't sell Johnny Manziel's jersey in the bookstore, don't put him on your marketing material. Don't have ESPN advertising "Jabari Parker and the Duke Blue Devils." The schools and networks promote individual players to make millions and then the players don't get a dime. The whole talk about the scholarship sounds nice, but the reality is on average a "full scholarship" still leaves athletes paying over 10K a year. On top of that a lot of these kids' family are so poor they would get a ton of financial aid even without the scholarship, and then at least they would be able to get a job during the season and earn some money. It's kind of silly that somebody on an academic scholarship is allowed to work to earn pocket money, while the athlete can't, at least during the season. 
?sorry, but they're not paying 10k a year unles they're incredibly dumb. As for poor families, pell grants are given out like candy these days. 

If you want to pay athletes on top of their scholarships, academic scholarship recipients should demand the same thing.

The choice is very simple, you can have players being paid, which results in unfair recruiting, the destruction of olympic sports and most DI programs

or you can have what you have now, which results in tens of thousands of free educations.
3/31/2014 4:47 PM
Posted by trobone on 3/31/2014 4:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by kmasonbx on 3/29/2014 6:50:00 PM (view original):
That's fine and dandy, but then don't sell Johnny Manziel's jersey in the bookstore, don't put him on your marketing material. Don't have ESPN advertising "Jabari Parker and the Duke Blue Devils." The schools and networks promote individual players to make millions and then the players don't get a dime. The whole talk about the scholarship sounds nice, but the reality is on average a "full scholarship" still leaves athletes paying over 10K a year. On top of that a lot of these kids' family are so poor they would get a ton of financial aid even without the scholarship, and then at least they would be able to get a job during the season and earn some money. It's kind of silly that somebody on an academic scholarship is allowed to work to earn pocket money, while the athlete can't, at least during the season. 
?sorry, but they're not paying 10k a year unles they're incredibly dumb. As for poor families, pell grants are given out like candy these days. 

If you want to pay athletes on top of their scholarships, academic scholarship recipients should demand the same thing.

The choice is very simple, you can have players being paid, which results in unfair recruiting, the destruction of olympic sports and most DI programs

or you can have what you have now, which results in tens of thousands of free educations.
When the jersey of your average engineering major starts flying off the shelf or when the 2014 Merit Scholars video game takes off, you'll have a valid point.  Until then it's apples and oranges.  

Also, that's a pretty big either/or assumption. A player's union can send college sports in quit a few directions, one which I mentioned in a prior post might actually be a very good thing for athletes and universities.
3/31/2014 5:50 PM (edited)
A scholarship is only good as long as the coach allows it. Scholarships are a series of 1 year contracts with student athletes. Ask someone who has played for Alabama how it works. Almost every year, Nick Saban signs too many student athletes for his available openings. His solution? Cutting players he thinks won't reach the potential he originally thought they would. I'm sure Saban isn't the only coach to employ these tactics.
4/1/2014 3:41 AM
Posted by creilmann on 3/31/2014 5:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by trobone on 3/31/2014 4:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by kmasonbx on 3/29/2014 6:50:00 PM (view original):
That's fine and dandy, but then don't sell Johnny Manziel's jersey in the bookstore, don't put him on your marketing material. Don't have ESPN advertising "Jabari Parker and the Duke Blue Devils." The schools and networks promote individual players to make millions and then the players don't get a dime. The whole talk about the scholarship sounds nice, but the reality is on average a "full scholarship" still leaves athletes paying over 10K a year. On top of that a lot of these kids' family are so poor they would get a ton of financial aid even without the scholarship, and then at least they would be able to get a job during the season and earn some money. It's kind of silly that somebody on an academic scholarship is allowed to work to earn pocket money, while the athlete can't, at least during the season. 
?sorry, but they're not paying 10k a year unles they're incredibly dumb. As for poor families, pell grants are given out like candy these days. 

If you want to pay athletes on top of their scholarships, academic scholarship recipients should demand the same thing.

The choice is very simple, you can have players being paid, which results in unfair recruiting, the destruction of olympic sports and most DI programs

or you can have what you have now, which results in tens of thousands of free educations.
When the jersey of your average engineering major starts flying off the shelf or when the 2014 Merit Scholars video game takes off, you'll have a valid point.  Until then it's apples and oranges.  

Also, that's a pretty big either/or assumption. A player's union can send college sports in quit a few directions, one which I mentioned in a prior post might actually be a very good thing for athletes and universities.
If you want to pay athletes on top of their scholarships, academic scholarship recipients should demand the same thing.

many academic scholarships already include stipends. they are not huge, but they pay living expenses and a little extra. 
4/1/2014 9:40 AM
Posted by flashlantern on 4/1/2014 3:41:00 AM (view original):
A scholarship is only good as long as the coach allows it. Scholarships are a series of 1 year contracts with student athletes. Ask someone who has played for Alabama how it works. Almost every year, Nick Saban signs too many student athletes for his available openings. His solution? Cutting players he thinks won't reach the potential he originally thought they would. I'm sure Saban isn't the only coach to employ these tactics.
That's generally true, but the NLRB regional dude that made the decision pointed out that NU had recently extended their scholarships to 4 year tenders.  There was some discussion that it could still get yanked on a variety of conditions that made deciding that the scholarship athletes were employees subject to control of the athletic department far beyond the oversight of other grant-in-aid recipients.   However, it made easy to skip the idea that these were temporary employees and, therefore, not an appropriate class for collective bargaining.  That's why I expect that private universities will go right back to the format that you outline.
4/1/2014 11:40 AM
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