This thread (that I started) was supposed to be focused on co-coaching, what was involved in it exactly, and it branched off into mentoring halfway through as well.
I had always been led to believe (in old forum threads) that co-coaching (and mentoring) involved a formal, thorough arrangement where a veteran coach took an owner under his wing, and walked him day to day through a full season of HD... from each phase and window of recruiting, to roster building, to game planning, really everything thoroughly. Nothing illegal, all well within the rules.
After several seasons, the mentor-mentee would part ways. This is the arrangement that I thought warranted the need to list the mentor-mentee (I may be wrong on this, fine), because I might be reluctant (and I may be wrong on this too, fine) to take on a team in a recruiting battle that has an HD legend like gillispie (or whomever) helping to guide them. Again, this proposal got little to no support, so fine, no worries.
After reading the answers on this thread, apparently I was mistaken on the extent of guidance that a co-coach or mentor provides to his student. This is fine, I may have misinterpreted old threads from years past. Again, the intent of this thread was to better understand what it entails.
Anyway, that was the background of my question. Some in the thread misinterpreted some of the things I had asked, assumed I was on a witch hunt, assumed a lot of things, and it became a circus. At a certain point I realized that I would gain nothing from constant bantering in the thread, so I bailed out.
To be clear, I never accused anyone of cheating. I never said co-coaching is cheating. I never said mentoring is cheating. I also never said poaching is cheating, although I've never done it. I basically just asked for clarification on a topic, thought it might warrant discussion, and was labeled as a paranoid or whatever.
But let me be clear:
- I asked for the definition of a co-coach and mentor, what each entails.
- I brought forth the idea that co-coaches or mentors-mentees let us know who they are. This has little to no support, so fine, no worries.
- I never, not once, said that any of this is cheating. Co-coaching isn't cheating. Mentoring isn't cheating. Poaching isn't cheating, although I've never done it.
- I never asked that sitemail guidance be shared with everyone. Someone misinterpreted what I said.
That's it. Again, several posters jumped on me early and assumed I had taken out a pitchfork and a tinfoil hat. They also created strawmen and then flamed me. Ok. Many of you might know me generally from time in Crum, and should know I'm not a troublemaker, but I do try to understand the game better.
The following was not intended to be part of this thread, but I will include it as a side note:
This is cheating:
- Owners who buy Div-1 schools under one of their multiple names, and stay there 1 year with no intention of developing the team, to use the Div-1 school's money to buy and feed FSS information to their Div-2 schools.
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1/19/2016 2:39 PM (edited)