Thx nate. Nate I'm way to lazy to look at old draft orders and this is only my second ODL, so I don't know who's who or what's what. I have a game within a game I like to play, I like to put somewhat obscure players on the AS list. My latest achivment was putting Terry Cummings on the DDL AS list. Also I see a great deal of discussion about eFG% drafted, I have alot of leagues where I draft a 48%FG and turn them into a 51-52%FG player using a strong assist mechinism. What you missed about J Smith is his +150ast% which is there to help feed KD. I want KD to shoot over 60%. I do hunt for players that are good but unpopular at the time on WIS, this really keeps me from having to rework my intended roster 10 times. I've had these players written down since picking KD and they were all there for me. Look at my 90def's PG/SF/C, now think about how this distribution will effect my ablity to DT players. My DT's will work just fine. Finally I have developed stratagies for dealing with the TO's & PF's, they are quite good at holding my teams to league average and that's all I need. It is weird building teams with less popular players, I'm usually think I just built the league ***** and it only took a month. lol