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6/17/2013 9:41 AM
Sorry. Out of town for Fathers Day. Spent whole day watching US Open with my dad and driving home the 4 hour drive.

Home teams push their record to 11-1. Home court was never more important than in the U of Indy / Harding game. Harding let 54-48 with 2:54 to go and U of Indy goes on a 13-0 run to close the game. Harding hit a meaningless 3 at the buzzer.

Standings
Seattle 3-1
Hillsdale 2-2
Harding 2-2
Longwood 2-2
U of Indy 2-2
St Marys TX 1-3

Round 5
Seattle (4-4) +3 @ #15 U of Indy (6-2)
Hillsdale 3-5 +3 @ Harding (4-4)
Longwood (4-4) +1 @ St Marys TX (4-4)

Round 4 Results
@U of Indy 61, Harding 57
UI: G Jacobs 12 (POG), J Noggle 10
HU: R Crooker 26, W Casey 13

Seattle 69, @St Marys TX 66
SU: K Phelps 26 (POG), J Lammers 10
SMU: M Kilburn 18/9R, J Barrows 11, G Spinks 9R

@Hillsdale 69, Longwood 59
HC: D Hale 12/10R (POG), E Taylor 13
LU: E Stovall 12, N Matamoros 12
6/17/2013 9:54 AM
Lot of folks have a chance to win this... who won? Time to go to crazy tie-breaker rule again...

Standings
Longwood 3-2
U of Indy 3-2
Seattle 3-2
Harding 3-2
Hillsdale 2-3
St Marys TX 1-4

Final Round Results
U of Indy 70, @Seattle 59
UI: J Buck 14 (POG), L Harmon 13
SU: J Lammers 15, J Sullivan 13, K Phelps 11, D McKinny 10R

@Harding 60, Hillsdale 50
HU: R Crooker 17 (POG), J Goggans 11
HC: L Seward 11, D Horton 9R

Longwood 65, @St Marys TX 64
LU: E Stovall 14/11R (POG), R Wilkin 11
SMU: M Kilburn 13/9R, H Wilson 12, M Gould 11, J Barrows 10
6/17/2013 9:54 AM
Here's the Tie-breaker rules... 

Rule 5. BASKETBALL TIEBREAKER RULE - ALL CLASSES
A. If two teams are tied from regular season conference play,
tiebreaker procedures will be:
1. Head to head in regular season conference play.
2. If the two teams have split, margin of victory between the
two teams, with a maximum of 10 points per game.
3. If the two teams are still tied, all winning conference
game points, with a maximum of 10 points per game.
4. Forfeited games. Offended teams shall receive 10
points when tabulating the sum of the winning margins
for breaking conference ties.
5. If the two teams are still tied, a coin flip by the Arkansas
Activities Association's Executive Director will decide
seeding.
B. If three teams are in a three-way tie from regular season
conference play, tie breaker procedures will be: Head-tohead
competition. If one team has been defeated by one of
the other teams twice, they would be eliminated. The two
remaining teams would go to step two listed above for two
teams that are tied. If step two does not break the tie, step
three would follow, then step four.
C. If three teams are tied and each team has split (or a perfect
triangle), tiebreaker procedures will be: Margin of victory in
all conference games, with a maximum of 10 points per
game.
D. After tabulating the sum of the winning margins, all teams
except the two with the greater sum shall be eliminated and
the selection process shall begin again with paragraph (A).
E. If four or more teams were tied, the margin of victory in all
conference games would be used, with a maximum of 10
points per game. Head-to-head competition would decide
the two teams with the most points. If these teams had
split victories, margin of victory between the two teams,
with a maximum of 10 points per game.
F. If the two teams remain tied, the team with the most total
points would receive the place for the first team (if both tied
with the same number of points, a coin toss would be used
to decide the first team). This procedure would continue
until all places were filled.
6/17/2013 10:06 AM
4 teams are tied, go straight to E again... In fact, I did it wrong last time... the rule says margin of victory in ALL games... not in ALL wins.

Margin of Victory in ALL GAMES (chopped at 10)
Longwood 10 + 10 - 10 - 10 + 1 = 1
U of Indy -2 - 10 + 4 + 4 + 10 = 6
Seattle -10 + 8 + 5 + 3 - 10 = -4
Harding 10 - 8 + 10 - 4 + 10 = 18

Harding and U of Indy have highest point totals

Head-to-Head
U of Indy beat Harding (on a 13-0 run to close the game)

Champ: U of Indy
Runner-up: Harding
6/17/2013 10:09 AM
Harding would've been the champ with Longwood runner-up if I did it like last year... ugh.
7/19/2013 2:18 PM (edited)
I'm curious... gonna tabulate last years again, but not changing it... it's in the books now...

Cal St Stanislaus - 2 - 2 + 10 + 10 + 5 = 21
Longwood 4 + 10 - 10 - 10 + 10 = 4
St Marys TX 1 + 10 + 10 - 2 - 5 = 14
Harding - 4 + 2 + 1 + 2 - 4 = -3

Cal St Stanislaus beat St Marys TX H2H.

Champ: Cal St Stanislaus
Runner-up: St Marys TX

So... Only thing that would've changed would have been runner-up. Sorry mduncanhogs.
6/17/2013 9:07 PM
In the 24 seasons of doing this, we didn't need a tie-breaker until last season. Then we needed one two years in a row. I'm just glad when I screwed up the tie-breaker last year that I named the correct champion.
6/17/2013 10:18 PM
This was a bizarre yarnell. My team was terrible in our two losses, and not so impressive in the wins, but we were tied for the lead at the end. 
6/18/2013 2:30 AM
Posted by bbunch on 6/17/2013 10:18:00 PM (view original):
This was a bizarre yarnell. My team was terrible in our two losses, and not so impressive in the wins, but we were tied for the lead at the end. 
you had 2 +10's?!? I'm with you though. I see a shift in home court advantage in the engine.
6/18/2013 2:33 AM
Proof in point. I just beat #1Valdosta who's been blowing out everyone with ease... at home.
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