Duel IDs same world why/cheating? Topic

Here is the chance to ask a coach to do the right thing if you feel he is in a situation that is offering a un fair advantage. Take a look around and speak up in public and be civil about it.
6/21/2011 2:38 PM
Posted by rmancil on 6/21/2011 2:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by atcchris on 6/21/2011 12:48:00 PM (view original):
One other thing, which is an aside for me... having multiple IDs in a world also affects another thing.. opportunity to coach your favorite school.  Now, if your favorite school is St. Olaf.. you'll probably be able to get a job there, no problem.. but if it's Oklahoma... good luck.  In the real world, there's only ONE Oklahoma... (OU fans will get that), but in WIS, there are 11.  In order to get that job, you have to be the best of the best.. AND have the job come available.   If you miss out on it, you have at least 4 seasons to wait to see if the new coach screws up.  If he doesn't, you're out of luck.  BUT, if the new coach has multiple IDs, and has been as successful with ID2 as with his first ID, he's got a good shot at locking down the OU job for life, or at least until you get bored with coaching at Montana or Baylor, whatnot.

To me, this is the flaw that kills GD as a game for joe college fan.  The core college fan isn't just a fan of the college game... although he enjoys it.. almost all college fans have at least one team they rabidly follow.. 3-4 tops.  If they can't play one of those teams in the game, they'll give up on it eventually and go play EA Sports or something.  Until WIS finds a way to address this, it's going to be a minor player in college football simultion games.
There are plenty of worlds in which to work at landing your favorite team the key is work. Just because you want to coach Oklahoma means you should. The key is earning the right which is why it is a elite job.
Don't be a doof.  This isn't about work.. and this isn't about complaining that I can't get that job.. it's about the way the game is set up that makes multiple IDs increase ones' odds and NOT using them decrease ones' odds.  It's hard enough to get an elite without having extra IDs added to the mix.  That is either true or it isn't.  Simple arithmetic says it's true.

The 2nd point is commentary on the viability of the game.  If it doesn't tap into the big group of college football fans, it isn't going to be viable, in the end.  IF WIS wants to attract the bulk of college football fans, new OR old engine, I'm afraid the concept they have isn't going to do it.
6/21/2011 3:21 PM
Posted by devindupre on 6/21/2011 12:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jeffkahleb on 6/21/2011 9:47:00 AM (view original):
I'll also name names. devindupre and 2guinness are run by the same person. He coached at Minnesota and Ohio St. last season in my conference. I didn't experience any problems for the one season both Id's were there and they didn't play each other but that is obviously bush league. So he then moves his devindupre Id to Vanderbilt and this season Vanderbilt and Ohio St. are both recruiting against me, Notre Dame, in my home state of Indiana. I have a problem with that.
Jeff, I landed on one DB and left him completely alone after 1st cycle. Relax... I don't have any problem being called out on it. I'll drop Vandy because it's obviously a problem. I've never tried to do anything sneaky or "bush league".
You keep doing things like that Devin and you'll be playing yourself in the NC game.
6/21/2011 5:02 PM
Posted by devindupre on 6/21/2011 12:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jeffkahleb on 6/21/2011 9:47:00 AM (view original):
I'll also name names. devindupre and 2guinness are run by the same person. He coached at Minnesota and Ohio St. last season in my conference. I didn't experience any problems for the one season both Id's were there and they didn't play each other but that is obviously bush league. So he then moves his devindupre Id to Vanderbilt and this season Vanderbilt and Ohio St. are both recruiting against me, Notre Dame, in my home state of Indiana. I have a problem with that.
Jeff, I landed on one DB and left him completely alone after 1st cycle. Relax... I don't have any problem being called out on it. I'll drop Vandy because it's obviously a problem. I've never tried to do anything sneaky or "bush league".
Relax my ***. Vanderbilt and Ohio St. came into Indiana and landed better OL then I was able to get in my own state. I spent money on both of them and wasn't up to the challenge of battling both of your teams. I had to go to Wisconsin to get my OL because you were doubling up on me. And it's not like you waited around a day or so, you hit those guys first day. And forget about going into Ohio to battle your Ohio St. team, so that gives you an advantage over the other teams in our conference you are battling. 

Anytime you have two teams in the same conference, that is bush league.
6/21/2011 6:26 PM
Posted by jeffkahleb on 6/21/2011 6:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by devindupre on 6/21/2011 12:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jeffkahleb on 6/21/2011 9:47:00 AM (view original):
I'll also name names. devindupre and 2guinness are run by the same person. He coached at Minnesota and Ohio St. last season in my conference. I didn't experience any problems for the one season both Id's were there and they didn't play each other but that is obviously bush league. So he then moves his devindupre Id to Vanderbilt and this season Vanderbilt and Ohio St. are both recruiting against me, Notre Dame, in my home state of Indiana. I have a problem with that.
Jeff, I landed on one DB and left him completely alone after 1st cycle. Relax... I don't have any problem being called out on it. I'll drop Vandy because it's obviously a problem. I've never tried to do anything sneaky or "bush league".
Relax my ***. Vanderbilt and Ohio St. came into Indiana and landed better OL then I was able to get in my own state. I spent money on both of them and wasn't up to the challenge of battling both of your teams. I had to go to Wisconsin to get my OL because you were doubling up on me. And it's not like you waited around a day or so, you hit those guys first day. And forget about going into Ohio to battle your Ohio St. team, so that gives you an advantage over the other teams in our conference you are battling. 

Anytime you have two teams in the same conference, that is bush league.
I get it. two teams in that close of proximity to each other can can be an advantage that is unfair to others especially in the conference. i targeted completely separate people and of course i'm coming into IN, I would have done it with just OSU. I unfortunately did come up on a DB with both teams and let him go with both immediately. my bad, Jeff. it was not my intent to "double up" on you but i can see how it can be perceived. You turned me in, WIS agreed with you, I'll drop Vandy, life goes on. Relax...

I appreciate your opinion on what is "bush league". 
6/21/2011 6:53 PM
Lol! This idiot sends me a sitemail and says it pertains to me as well. Everyone i am also ginobili04 and i have no other team in Stagg but this Auburn team under this id. Ive had this id for years now and kept it a secret because i started the gino id in Rockne while i was still at Mount Union in Rockne D3. I have commited a crime and want to be prosecuted. Screw off rmamcil just cause you cheat and still suck doesnt mean everyone else does.
6/21/2011 9:10 PM
LOL classic Gino
6/22/2011 7:59 AM
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For all the shouting no good arguments on why the need for two schools close to one another. Seems pretty clear cut to me.Man folks with hidden agendas get uptight when they get caught don't they.
6/22/2011 2:39 PM
I personally have no problem with people having more than one ID, as long as they use them the right way. SO WHAT IF THEY HAVE A D1 TEAM IN WASHINGTON AND A D1-AA TEAM IN FLORIDA? As long as the teams aren't directly helping each other during recruiting, they shouldn't have to cancel a team. I will freely admit I have never played more than one ID at a time.... This is my one and only, but that doesn't mean I'm against others with more than one ID.
6/23/2011 12:50 PM
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