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3/20/2011 7:03 PM
potter444
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After this recent event with the mcbethbr/nelsonba25 account, I also vaguely recall a forum thread way back when discussing the nelsonba25 account landing some stud DIA RB in the heart of the northeast region (which at the time was packed with active DIA schools) while he had a DIAA program.  If my memory serves, some other accounts at a DIA school, or schools, were on the recruit but, oddly, decided not to sign him and the recruit magically fell to the nelsonba25 account at DIAA.  My recollection is that people were perplexed about how this happened.  I'm NOW thinking that maybe the digital DIA stud recruit was mad at someone and wanted to spite him or her by signing with nelsonba25's DIAA school.  The nelsonba25 account shouldn't have accepted the recruit and it was wrong but he apologized....and kept the recruit for the next four years.        
3/20/2011 7:15 PM (edited)
steinbajl
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I can't speak for any other multiple account holders, but when I first started playing many, many, seasons ago I created a second account.  The reason had nothing to do with collusion, rather I was torn with the race to move up divisions and get a D1A team while they were still plentiful and also wanting to stay behind and coach at the school I was at that was having success.  I created a second account so I could move up with my main name and then still coach my lower division school with the second user name.  I know even back then it was frowned upon and I tried to keep it a secret but everyone in the conference knew that my second name was fishy because I knew too much about the game and recruiting.  Back then the worlds were all full and this was division 3 so most new users struggled until they learned the ropes so it was easy to spot experienced coaches with good recruiting classes.  I was called out right away and used some lame excuse that I was a "friend" of the "old" coach which of course just added to the deception.  I wish I would have just come clean right out the gate and said I wanted to stay at my school and also coach in the upper division.  The funny part was I got tired of the game and literally gave the account with multiple seasons left to another user who I was freindly with on line.  He changed my username to something he wanted and then just followed me  up the ladder.  When I moved from Div 2 to one 1AA he would take over the same school I was at.  The game is different know and I am not complaining about the game engine because I haven't had enough experience to see the difference.  The big difference now is the total lack of players which really decreases the enjoyment of the game.  The biggest problem I remember was coaches who couldn't recruit jumping every season or two to better teams only to destroy those teams and move on with very little reputation penalties.  Now there are so few players they should combine some of the worlds to increase the competition.  Sorry, didn't mean to sideline the original topic, but not all multi users were created to gain advantages in the game and back in the day there was strong loyalty and competition between the worlds.  People did not want to spread teams around like I am now because certain worlds were much better than others with active coaches.  Edit...  Having multiple teams in the same world and division is a line I would not cross, even if I had no intention of taking advantage of the situation because the perception of possible collusion would exist regardless of intent. 
3/20/2011 7:15 PM
plague
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Posted by potter444 on 3/20/2011 7:03:00 PM (view original):
After this recent event with the mcbethbr/nelsonba25 account, I also vaguely recall a forum thread way back when discussing the nelsonba25 account landing some stud DIA RB in the heart of the northeast region (which at the time was packed with active DIA schools) while he had a DIAA program.  If my memory serves, some other accounts at a DIA school, or schools, were on the recruit but, oddly, decided not to sign him and the recruit magically fell to the nelsonba25 account at DIAA.  My recollection is that people were perplexed about how this happened.  I'm NOW thinking that maybe the digital DIA stud recruit was mad at someone and wanted to spite him or her by signing with nelsonba25's DIAA school.  The nelsonba25 account shouldn't have accepted the recruit and it was wrong but he apologized....and kept the recruit for the next four years.        
I am thinking this strategy is more common than people notice. Probably multiple times a player slips to a D1AA team because a D1 school did not offer a scholarship. As a D1AA coach it sure would be nice to know if a D1 team is going to offer a recruit a scholarship.

It's also nice as a D1AA coach to be able to read scouting reports of a D1 teams scouting trips without having to pay for them yourself, especially when those scouting reports may be over 250 miles away from you but within 250 miles of the D1 team. That also goes true for two division 1 teams, its nice to be able to scout recruits 800 miles away at the 180 miles and under price.

If you are going to preach against list sharing then you should not be playing multiple ID'S.
3/20/2011 7:22 PM
mcbethbr
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For the record I'm not nelsonba25.  I don't know him personally, and I doubt if we even live in the same time zone.  Try and ask in a customer support ticket and maybe they'll confirm that much. 
3/20/2011 7:25 PM
tcochran
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Posted by mcbethbr on 3/20/2011 7:22:00 PM (view original):
For the record I'm not nelsonba25.  I don't know him personally, and I doubt if we even live in the same time zone.  Try and ask in a customer support ticket and maybe they'll confirm that much. 
he's using a proxy
3/20/2011 7:31 PM
potter444
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Posted by mcbethbr on 3/20/2011 7:22:00 PM (view original):
For the record I'm not nelsonba25.  I don't know him personally, and I doubt if we even live in the same time zone.  Try and ask in a customer support ticket and maybe they'll confirm that much. 
No.  Your word is gold. 
3/20/2011 7:33 PM
livemike
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Posted by mcbethbr on 3/20/2011 7:22:00 PM (view original):
For the record I'm not nelsonba25.  I don't know him personally, and I doubt if we even live in the same time zone.  Try and ask in a customer support ticket and maybe they'll confirm that much. 
Apparently you missed the connection where both IDs have a name AND initials and one of them also has NUMBERS!  So busted. 
3/20/2011 7:35 PM
livemike
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Wait a minute!  potter44 has a name AND numbers just like nelsonba25!  OMG!  He's just another clone ID!  He's ratting himself out for stealing a recruit from... himself!
3/20/2011 7:42 PM
potter444
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Posted by livemike on 3/20/2011 7:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mcbethbr on 3/20/2011 7:22:00 PM (view original):
For the record I'm not nelsonba25.  I don't know him personally, and I doubt if we even live in the same time zone.  Try and ask in a customer support ticket and maybe they'll confirm that much. 
Apparently you missed the connection where both IDs have a name AND initials and one of them also has NUMBERS!  So busted. 
Apparently you're missing a chromosome.
3/20/2011 7:48 PM
tommyweather
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My word of advice to mcbethbr... next time instead of being a sore loser take a step back, wash your vagina, and move on.  You do realize this is just a game correct?  In this game it is within anyones rights to swipe recruits that were originally looking at you.  
3/20/2011 7:49 PM
jeffkahleb
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Posted by potter444 on 3/20/2011 7:03:00 PM (view original):
After this recent event with the mcbethbr/nelsonba25 account, I also vaguely recall a forum thread way back when discussing the nelsonba25 account landing some stud DIA RB in the heart of the northeast region (which at the time was packed with active DIA schools) while he had a DIAA program.  If my memory serves, some other accounts at a DIA school, or schools, were on the recruit but, oddly, decided not to sign him and the recruit magically fell to the nelsonba25 account at DIAA.  My recollection is that people were perplexed about how this happened.  I'm NOW thinking that maybe the digital DIA stud recruit was mad at someone and wanted to spite him or her by signing with nelsonba25's DIAA school.  The nelsonba25 account shouldn't have accepted the recruit and it was wrong but he apologized....and kept the recruit for the next four years.        
I will attempt to post back on topic.

I had a very similar experience as yours potter only without the site mails. I was locked up with another coach, I unfortunately don't remember the name, but maybe with some research I can try and figure it out, but we were deep in a battle over a STL player and it was a couple days after signings and I was winning. Along comes nelson with an elite and dumps a ton of money into the guy and takes him away. Kinda fishy at the time because as you had pointed out nelson could of had that guy at anytime but decides two days after signings to jump into a battle that had over 60k in it. I know from personal experience that if I jump into a two man battle and I drop 10, 15, 20k into it and don't even show up that there is a lot of money being spent, a real battle is going on, and I could end up dropping my whole budget and not even get in on the recruit, so I back out and finish my class with a guarantee. So for an elite coach to first of all not have his class together or at least involved in battles prior to signings raised a flag for me. And second to jump blindly* into an ongoing battle with over 60k spent and to keep spending that confidently raised another flag.

Second nelson story.
When I first started playing again I was reading the forums and saw a many a thread with nelson talking about all the STL players he has on his teams and all the scouting he does and all his nutthuggers in awe of him. Well I've played a game or two and I know that especially at the lower levels you simply don't have enough money to scout as many players as he was and still have enough money to go out and battle for those players, and with carry over gone? Something wasn't adding up.

Nelson's game plans are nothing new. Coaches have been running the ball down peoples throats forever. What is different is the amount of STL and high potential players that make his teams. This can only be accomplished by scouting a lot of players at a high cost. A cost he seems to be able to afford. 

There are my two stories. Nutthuggers you may now attack.
3/20/2011 8:30 PM
livemike
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Man I'd love to offer a rebuttal but that argument is just so strong. He took your recruit AND used asst scouting trips? That seals it.
3/20/2011 8:50 PM
fermor332002
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Posted by potter444 on 3/20/2011 7:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by livemike on 3/20/2011 7:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mcbethbr on 3/20/2011 7:22:00 PM (view original):
For the record I'm not nelsonba25.  I don't know him personally, and I doubt if we even live in the same time zone.  Try and ask in a customer support ticket and maybe they'll confirm that much. 
Apparently you missed the connection where both IDs have a name AND initials and one of them also has NUMBERS!  So busted. 
Apparently you're missing a chromosome.
LOL
3/20/2011 9:00 PM
livemike
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Dude, fermor's ID is composed of name and numbers too.  I think he may be in on it. 
3/20/2011 10:42 PM
chuckc
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Damn, this is too much fun. Let's see if you sleuths can figure out my 2 ids. I got them in the same world and both are elites. One elite I have had for several seasons and the other one is fairly new. One of these elites is in the SEC. Not a lot to go on, but I'm not ready to rat myself out just yet. I'll do it once I leave this bleepity bleeped game!

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