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10/27/2013 5:17 PM
Just wondering about recruits and my vision at the DIII level.  Right now when I search recruits the top players start around 500.  I just wondering if my vision can go higher.  I see teams with players getting up to 700.  What rating level do these guys start out at?
10/27/2013 6:50 PM
don't look at the rating.  use the positional roles and judge from those.  first year D3 at a rebuilding school i usually see guys up to low 40's but if you are looking for undecideds then around 35-38 is more reasonable.  my advice is to plug in the GUESS ratings into the position roles or use yatzr's recruiting tool.  well worth the five bucks for the premium version but the free version will do the trick as well
10/27/2013 9:44 PM (edited)
I understand the position roles and guess ratings.  That's what I use to recruit.  Im just trying to figure out if my vision can get better.  I see teams with guys around 700.  The best player ive had thus far in two seasons is 600+.   Ive had 10 wins in both my seasons and made the playoffs this season.  Just wondering how much more my vision will get.
10/27/2013 9:51 PM
you may be referring to the "potential" of the players you see that end up with 700 at D3. This has less to do with vision as does with reading the scouting reports to judge upside when your initially recruiting them. Players grow at different rates based on that info, so you may have the #1 QB recruit as a frosh but he may not end up being in the top 10 or so as a senior. The more you win the better "initially" rated players you will see, however the growth factor varies.
10/27/2013 9:56 PM
Also, redshirting a player will help him reach a higher rating by the time he is done. As does starting a player as a freshman, etc.
10/29/2013 9:15 AM
I understand everything everyone has said.  But your not understanding what im asking I guess.  These guys that I see at 700+.  Where are they starting at? 500 or more.  Im just trying to see if im seeing the highest rated player at this point or if I my vision can still get better.  This recruiting class the highest rated player is 508.  I think last year the top player was rated 502. 
10/29/2013 9:35 AM
Posted by rlslmshdy on 10/29/2013 9:15:00 AM (view original):
I understand everything everyone has said.  But your not understanding what im asking I guess.  These guys that I see at 700+.  Where are they starting at? 500 or more.  Im just trying to see if im seeing the highest rated player at this point or if I my vision can still get better.  This recruiting class the highest rated player is 508.  I think last year the top player was rated 502. 
What team(s) are you seeing these 700+ players?
10/29/2013 10:42 AM
Unless you've won NC's the last four seasons, your vision CAN get higher.  Back when slid64der was owning D3, I bet he saw recruits near the 600 total range.

10/29/2013 11:16 AM
Posted by mgm0461 on 10/29/2013 9:35:00 AM (view original):
Posted by rlslmshdy on 10/29/2013 9:15:00 AM (view original):
I understand everything everyone has said.  But your not understanding what im asking I guess.  These guys that I see at 700+.  Where are they starting at? 500 or more.  Im just trying to see if im seeing the highest rated player at this point or if I my vision can still get better.  This recruiting class the highest rated player is 508.  I think last year the top player was rated 502. 
What team(s) are you seeing these 700+ players?
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10/29/2013 11:39 AM
Posted by rlslmshdy on 10/29/2013 9:15:00 AM (view original):
I understand everything everyone has said.  But your not understanding what im asking I guess.  These guys that I see at 700+.  Where are they starting at? 500 or more.  Im just trying to see if im seeing the highest rated player at this point or if I my vision can still get better.  This recruiting class the highest rated player is 508.  I think last year the top player was rated 502. 
You can see previous recruiting classes in GUESS.  It's a very useful exercise to see where these players started. 
10/29/2013 12:23 PM
Posted by slid64er on 10/29/2013 11:39:00 AM (view original):
Posted by rlslmshdy on 10/29/2013 9:15:00 AM (view original):
I understand everything everyone has said.  But your not understanding what im asking I guess.  These guys that I see at 700+.  Where are they starting at? 500 or more.  Im just trying to see if im seeing the highest rated player at this point or if I my vision can still get better.  This recruiting class the highest rated player is 508.  I think last year the top player was rated 502. 
You can see previous recruiting classes in GUESS.  It's a very useful exercise to see where these players started. 
Well, you could until today.  My web host upgraded the underlying web framework, which, as I suspected it would, broke the applications.  Since I have a new version ready to roll out - although that's proving more difficult than I expected - I hadn't planned on re-doing the old apps.
10/29/2013 12:38 PM
I would suspect that the highest DIII player may get up to the 520's with high vision.
10/29/2013 12:53 PM
I had a DIII player that ended up over 800. Started at about 515 - STL - with a RS year and 4 years of starts. Could of been a little higher if I had more PO games.
10/30/2013 1:37 AM
Win 10 games a season to up your vision.

And what I like to do is to find decent recruits with good/great potential and at least 40 work ethic.

10/30/2013 8:27 AM
Posted by esf0242 on 10/29/2013 11:16:00 AM (view original):
Posted by mgm0461 on 10/29/2013 9:35:00 AM (view original):
Posted by rlslmshdy on 10/29/2013 9:15:00 AM (view original):
I understand everything everyone has said.  But your not understanding what im asking I guess.  These guys that I see at 700+.  Where are they starting at? 500 or more.  Im just trying to see if im seeing the highest rated player at this point or if I my vision can still get better.  This recruiting class the highest rated player is 508.  I think last year the top player was rated 502. 
What team(s) are you seeing these 700+ players?
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The coach has been in the top 10 most of his time there, and won 2 NCs in the last 4 seasons, his vision probably maxed out and he's able to recruit guys near the top of a D2 search.  With above average or sky's the limit potential, high WE, a red shirt, and a good practice plan, I could see a player easily reaching 700 or more.

Ask some of the old timers about nelson and his Ferrum teams, it seemed as if every player was over 700.

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