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9/20/2012 4:13 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 3:48:00 PM (view original):
So are you implying that the Republicans, in an election year, are simply spitting on Veteran job bills?

Are you stupid, drunk or both?   Do you understand the political process beyond cresten's funny pics?
It seems you don't understand the political process at all. The Republicans have consistently stood in the way of jobs bills throughout the past four years. They can do this because they realize there are plenty of simple-minded MikeTitties who will reflexively blame the President, no matter what. Does Mitch McConnell have to get on top of his turtle shell and scream the strategy at you? I mean, he pratically did, but you still ignore it.

Stick to baseball. It's what you know.
9/20/2012 4:17 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 3:48:00 PM (view original):
So are you implying that the Republicans, in an election year, are simply spitting on Veteran job bills?

Are you stupid, drunk or both?   Do you understand the political process beyond cresten's funny pics?
I think the republicans have a strong incentive to do anything they can to block bills that could possibly help the economy right now. The average person isn't paying very close attention and a talking head or two can usually throw up the "this bill's full of pork" smokescreen and the story goes away. 

Do you honestly think that ANY bill passed today will have a profound effect on the economy before November?     Really?

9/20/2012 4:17 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 3:51:00 PM (view original):
The funny part, on this board, is that cresten appears to be the most intelligent liberal.

CRESTEN!!!!   HOW THE **** DOES THAT HAPPEN?
SAY "THANK YOU", INGRATE!!!!!
9/20/2012 4:20 PM
HOKA HOKA THANKY THANKY
9/20/2012 4:23 PM
Posted by edsortails on 9/20/2012 3:47:00 PM (view original):
the pork appears to have been posted on page 2....did you skip that page or did you just not understand the tricky words?
I read that. It was pretty laughable. Basically, the government was funding work with the oil industry. The bill would withdraw the funding, and you guys want to claim that's "robbing" them? As if they were entitled to it? Hilarious. Talk about sucking on the government teat.
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9/20/2012 4:25 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 4:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 3:48:00 PM (view original):
So are you implying that the Republicans, in an election year, are simply spitting on Veteran job bills?

Are you stupid, drunk or both?   Do you understand the political process beyond cresten's funny pics?
I think the republicans have a strong incentive to do anything they can to block bills that could possibly help the economy right now. The average person isn't paying very close attention and a talking head or two can usually throw up the "this bill's full of pork" smokescreen and the story goes away. 

Do you honestly think that ANY bill passed today will have a profound effect on the economy before November?     Really?

No, but even a small improvement or the perception of coming improvement helps Obama. Romney is already a long shot, the Republicans can't allow jobs bills to pass with the election less than two months away.
9/20/2012 4:33 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 4:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 4:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 3:48:00 PM (view original):
So are you implying that the Republicans, in an election year, are simply spitting on Veteran job bills?

Are you stupid, drunk or both?   Do you understand the political process beyond cresten's funny pics?
I think the republicans have a strong incentive to do anything they can to block bills that could possibly help the economy right now. The average person isn't paying very close attention and a talking head or two can usually throw up the "this bill's full of pork" smokescreen and the story goes away. 

Do you honestly think that ANY bill passed today will have a profound effect on the economy before November?     Really?

No, but even a small improvement or the perception of coming improvement helps Obama. Romney is already a long shot, the Republicans can't allow jobs bills to pass with the election less than two months away.
Here's the problem with that theory:

Nothing will change, jobs-wise, over the next 6 weeks regardless of what bill passes.   So the thinking public sees this for what it is:
Liberal side:  "WE'RE TRYING BUT THE REPUBS ARE BLOCKING US!!!'
Conservative side:  "THE BILL WAS LOADED WITH PORK.   THE DEFICIT IS OUT OF CONTROL AND THAT BILL MAKES IT WORSE!!!"

There's no winner/loser in the passing or rejection of the bill.   Had it passed, here you go:
Libs:  "WE DID IT!!!!  JOBS FOR VETERANS!!!"
Cons:  "We let it go thru to help the Vets but it's full of pork.   We just passed it out of respect for our veterans."
9/20/2012 4:37 PM (edited)

All it really came down to was which talking point the Repubs wanted to run with.

They chose "Free spending liberals vs. the deficit."

9/20/2012 4:40 PM
Posted by genghisxcon on 9/20/2012 4:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by edsortails on 9/20/2012 3:47:00 PM (view original):
the pork appears to have been posted on page 2....did you skip that page or did you just not understand the tricky words?
I read that. It was pretty laughable. Basically, the government was funding work with the oil industry. The bill would withdraw the funding, and you guys want to claim that's "robbing" them? As if they were entitled to it? Hilarious. Talk about sucking on the government teat.
honestly, with this post it appears that you like to pick and choose where you apply your own logic


I get you want to support your side, but how is taking from X not robbing but taking from Y is?
Simply because you think Y is a more just cause? Isn't that the unfair, selective line of thinking that Dems claim is the GOP 'plan'?
9/20/2012 4:43 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 4:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 4:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 4:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 3:48:00 PM (view original):
So are you implying that the Republicans, in an election year, are simply spitting on Veteran job bills?

Are you stupid, drunk or both?   Do you understand the political process beyond cresten's funny pics?
I think the republicans have a strong incentive to do anything they can to block bills that could possibly help the economy right now. The average person isn't paying very close attention and a talking head or two can usually throw up the "this bill's full of pork" smokescreen and the story goes away. 

Do you honestly think that ANY bill passed today will have a profound effect on the economy before November?     Really?

No, but even a small improvement or the perception of coming improvement helps Obama. Romney is already a long shot, the Republicans can't allow jobs bills to pass with the election less than two months away.
Here's the problem with that theory:

Nothing will change, jobs-wise, over the next 6 weeks regardless of what bill passes.   So the thinking public sees this for what it is:
Liberal side:  "WE'RE TRYING BUT THE REPUBS ARE BLOCKING US!!!'
Conservative side:  "THE BILL WAS LOADED WITH PORK.   THE DEFICIT IS OUT OF CONTROL AND THAT BILL MAKES IT WORSE!!!"

There's no winner/loser in the passing or rejection of the bill.   Had it passed, here you go:
Libs:  "WE DID IT!!!!  JOBS FOR VETERANS!!!"
Cons:  "We let it go thru to help the Vets but it's full of pork.   We just passed it out of respect for our veterans."
I guess I just disagree. The economy (not the deficit) is the strongest argument against re-electing Obama. Doing anything at all that could possibly improve the economy (6 weeks is enough time to see a small improvement, especially coupled with QE3) is counterproductive to the goal of getting Romney in the White House.

Even if they truly believed that the bill wouldn't help, the chance that it might, or the chance that the economy will improve coincidentally (and allow Democrats to claim success with the bill), forced the Republicans to block it.
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9/20/2012 6:27 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 4:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 4:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 4:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 4:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2012 3:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/20/2012 3:48:00 PM (view original):
So are you implying that the Republicans, in an election year, are simply spitting on Veteran job bills?

Are you stupid, drunk or both?   Do you understand the political process beyond cresten's funny pics?
I think the republicans have a strong incentive to do anything they can to block bills that could possibly help the economy right now. The average person isn't paying very close attention and a talking head or two can usually throw up the "this bill's full of pork" smokescreen and the story goes away. 

Do you honestly think that ANY bill passed today will have a profound effect on the economy before November?     Really?

No, but even a small improvement or the perception of coming improvement helps Obama. Romney is already a long shot, the Republicans can't allow jobs bills to pass with the election less than two months away.
Here's the problem with that theory:

Nothing will change, jobs-wise, over the next 6 weeks regardless of what bill passes.   So the thinking public sees this for what it is:
Liberal side:  "WE'RE TRYING BUT THE REPUBS ARE BLOCKING US!!!'
Conservative side:  "THE BILL WAS LOADED WITH PORK.   THE DEFICIT IS OUT OF CONTROL AND THAT BILL MAKES IT WORSE!!!"

There's no winner/loser in the passing or rejection of the bill.   Had it passed, here you go:
Libs:  "WE DID IT!!!!  JOBS FOR VETERANS!!!"
Cons:  "We let it go thru to help the Vets but it's full of pork.   We just passed it out of respect for our veterans."
I guess I just disagree. The economy (not the deficit) is the strongest argument against re-electing Obama. Doing anything at all that could possibly improve the economy (6 weeks is enough time to see a small improvement, especially coupled with QE3) is counterproductive to the goal of getting Romney in the White House.

Even if they truly believed that the bill wouldn't help, the chance that it might, or the chance that the economy will improve coincidentally (and allow Democrats to claim success with the bill), forced the Republicans to block it.
The deficit is a fine talking point/scare tactic.   "OMG, IT'S 16 TRILLION!!!!"

Over 8% is another.    It's countered with "1%" and "Multi-millionaire" on the other side.

People don't have to understand everything, they just need to understand enough.
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