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9/26/2012 12:51 PM
There have also been entire research books written on the topic of little green men.  Just because people have written books claiming something (or refuting something, in this case) doesn't make it true.

As swamp has pointed out, there is plenty of historical evidence that points to the existiance of a man named Jesus that lived ~2000 years ago who was regarded by many as a prophet and who had a following.
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9/26/2012 1:31 PM
I've never, in my life, heard anyone say that Jesus didn't exist.    What he was, exactly, can be debated.   That he didn't exist seems illogical.
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9/26/2012 1:40 PM
Simon Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University & considered the foremost expert on Jurisprudence at the time, wrote a book titled "Testimony of the Evangelists".

He viewed the four gospels as though they were testimony in a courtroom, and concluded that If you wanted to deny the validity of the four Gospels, you could do so, but not due to a lack of evidence.

Even the Muslims, nor any other major religion do not deny His existence.

9/26/2012 1:57 PM
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9/26/2012 3:11 PM
The Bible is just a compilation of various writings that was compiled by a church committee to fit a predefined agenda. 
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9/26/2012 4:01 PM
Yet we are left choosing between Intelligent design or the ultra nonsensical notion that is abiogenesis.


9/26/2012 4:13 PM (edited)
Posted by bad_luck on 9/26/2012 2:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mchalesarmy on 9/26/2012 1:41:00 PM (view original):
Simon Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University & considered the foremost expert on Jurisprudence at the time, wrote a book titled "Testimony of the Evangelists".

He viewed the four gospels as though they were testimony in a courtroom, and concluded that If you wanted to deny the validity of the four Gospels, you could do so, but not due to a lack of evidence.

Even the Muslims, nor any other major religion do not deny His existence.

His evidence is the Bible. If you consider the Bible to be as valid as courtroom testimony, then yeah, that's pretty compelling. If you consider the Bible fiction, it's less so.
Bart Ehrman, an atheist, doesn't dispute the existence of Jesus -he just doesn't believe he was divine.

Richard Dawkins, even admitted Jesus existed.

Dawkins actually admitted that only 1 out of dozens of the worlds foremost Ancient Historians would oppose Professional peers and say that Jesus didn't exist.

Like Greenleaf said you can deny it, but not for a lack of evidence.

9/26/2012 4:30 PM (edited)
Here's another:

The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.

The context of the passage is the six-day Great Fire of Rome that burned much of the city in AD 64 during the reign of Roman Emperor Nero. The passage is one of the earliest non-Christian references to the origin of Christianity, the execution of Christ described in the Canonical gospels, and the presence and persecution of Christians in 1st-century Rome.

Scholars generally consider Tacitus's reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source. Eddy and Boyd state that it is now "firmly established" that Tacitus provides a non-Christian confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus.


Again we can see that denial can only be attributed to one's personal choice and not based on much else.

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