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10/8/2012 11:33 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 10/8/2012 11:24:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/8/2012 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/8/2012 8:47:00 AM (view original):
How do invalids without cars make it to the polls?
Absentee. I have both a car and functioning legs and I vote by mail every election.
Why?
Because I like to. I don't have to stand in line, or drive to my polling place, or remember the details of the 712,000 ballot propositions that are always up for a vote in California.
10/8/2012 11:47 AM
So it's a big inconvenience for you to vote?   And you don't really understand the issues?

Yeah, we should definitely make sure you get to vote.
10/8/2012 12:23 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/8/2012 11:47:00 AM (view original):
So it's a big inconvenience for you to vote?   And you don't really understand the issues?

Yeah, we should definitely make sure you get to vote.
It's not inconvenient to vote, just more convenient to vote by mail. An option that everyone is given. I don't know why anyone would have an issue with me taking advantage of it.

And voting from home allows me a better understanding of the issues. Instead of having to remember what propositions 30, 31, 32, 33, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, and 40 do (and that's just statewide, there are multiple local props also)  I can look up various explanations while I vote.

Beyond that, yes, even if I thought voting was an inconvenience and I was completely clueless on the issues, we should definitely make sure I get to vote. That's how America works.
10/8/2012 12:27 PM
I guess that's where we differ(in addition to a million other things).    I don't care if people get to vote.  If it's too much trouble to head down to the polls, stay home.   if you don't know what/who you're voting for, stay home.    I'd rather people make informed decisions instead of pushing all the buttons on the left or right.  Or voting for a candidate because "He looks like me and he has a nice smile!!!"
10/8/2012 12:30 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/8/2012 12:27:00 PM (view original):
I guess that's where we differ(in addition to a million other things).    I don't care if people get to vote.  If it's too much trouble to head down to the polls, stay home.   if you don't know what/who you're voting for, stay home.    I'd rather people make informed decisions instead of pushing all the buttons on the left or right.  Or voting for a candidate because "He looks like me and he has a nice smile!!!"
OK. But we shouldn't make it HARDER for someone to vote. That's the problem. Requiring ID actually suppresses votes in an effort to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
10/8/2012 12:33 PM
Requiring ID is something so minor it shouldn't matter.   I don't even know how someone goes about never getting an ID.   Who doesn't have identification?   It's not like anyone is trying to put microchips in people like you do your pet.
10/8/2012 12:43 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/8/2012 12:33:00 PM (view original):
Requiring ID is something so minor it shouldn't matter.   I don't even know how someone goes about never getting an ID.   Who doesn't have identification?   It's not like anyone is trying to put microchips in people like you do your pet.
A lot of people don't have ID's.
10/8/2012 12:50 PM

Who?  What type of person goes thru life without identification?

10/8/2012 12:50 PM

The effort needed to obtain a legal and valid photo ID is easier that the effort needed to do thoughtful research into the candidates and propositions that you'll be voting for on your ballot.

10/8/2012 12:52 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/8/2012 12:50:00 PM (view original):

Who?  What type of person goes thru life without identification?

Mostly poor and elderly. You know, Democrats.
10/8/2012 12:53 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 10/8/2012 12:50:00 PM (view original):

The effort needed to obtain a legal and valid photo ID is easier that the effort needed to do thoughtful research into the candidates and propositions that you'll be voting for on your ballot.

Thoughtful research isn't a voting requirement either.
10/8/2012 1:01 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 10/8/2012 12:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/8/2012 12:50:00 PM (view original):

Who?  What type of person goes thru life without identification?

Mostly poor and elderly. You know, Democrats.
I know old and poor people.   They have identification. 

I'd expect some backwoods redneck to lack ID.  You know, Republicans.
10/8/2012 1:07 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/8/2012 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/8/2012 12:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/8/2012 12:50:00 PM (view original):

Who?  What type of person goes thru life without identification?

Mostly poor and elderly. You know, Democrats.
I know old and poor people.   They have identification. 

I'd expect some backwoods redneck to lack ID.  You know, Republicans.
I'd probably expect that too, but this isn't some noble cause that Republican legislators have suddenly taken up for the good of the country.

 “Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania: done,” Turzai said while listing his party’s accomplishments.

youtu.be/EuOT1bRYdK8



10/8/2012 1:10 PM
I really have no problem with "forcing" someone to show an ID to vote.   The Dems will get them to the polls.  Figure out how to get them to a place where they can get ID.   No one, legally in the US, should walk around without identification.    That's just insane.
10/8/2012 1:14 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/8/2012 1:10:00 PM (view original):
I really have no problem with "forcing" someone to show an ID to vote.   The Dems will get them to the polls.  Figure out how to get them to a place where they can get ID.   No one, legally in the US, should walk around without identification.    That's just insane.
Whatever dude. No one is changing their minds on this. But people walk around without ID all the time and it's perfectly OK. This is 'merica after all. Freedom and sh*t.
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