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11/6/2012 6:39 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/6/2012 6:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 5:48:00 PM (view original):
What does that have to do with absentee ballots?
That's what we were discussing.

ADD?
So you're saying absentee ballots shouldn't be allowed because there's voter fraud?
Do you really have no idea what you were discussing?
11/6/2012 6:41 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 11/6/2012 6:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/6/2012 6:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 5:48:00 PM (view original):
What does that have to do with absentee ballots?
That's what we were discussing.

ADD?
So you're saying absentee ballots shouldn't be allowed because there's voter fraud?
Do you really have no idea what you were discussing?
I'm still waiting for you to show me where all this voter fraud is happening and how eliminating absentee ballots solves it.
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11/6/2012 6:59 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 11/6/2012 1:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by silentpadna on 11/6/2012 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 12:21:00 PM (view original):
There are a lot of problems in the world. People voting by mail is not one of them.
Nah, when ballots show up in the mail for people who've passed away recently (because their names are still on the rolls), no opportunity for this to be a "problem in the world".

Vote by mail is one of the most idiotic concepts ever invented.  That, along with saying that needing photo ID to vote is discriminatory.
Absentee voting has it's place if there's a legitimate reason.  You're in the military and posted oversees (or domestically).  You're in college in another state.  You're on the road for a business trip (or even on vacation).  You're hospitalized.  There are many, many valid reasons why one cannot make it to their designated polling place on election day.

But because it's too inconvenient for you to get to your polling place, or you can't be bothered to possibly stand in line, or you might miss an episode or two of the "Pawn Stars" marathon on the History Channel . . . none of those should be valid reasons to vote by mail.
It seems like his point is that lazy people shouldn't be catered to.
11/6/2012 7:06 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 6:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by deathinahole on 11/6/2012 6:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 6:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2012 6:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 5:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by deathinahole on 11/6/2012 5:10:00 PM (view original):
The answer, of course, is 1.

Except with vote by mail, it's the unconfirmed fraudulent votes that are the problem. "This one doesn't smell like Fred. Throw it out!"
So how much time and effort is appropriate to attempt to stop one case of voter fraud?
As much as it takes.   Do you understand what people have sacrficed in the past, currently sacrifice and will sacrifice in the future just so people like you can vote?

Or, on the other hand, we could just take a few small steps to prevent it from happening at all.
As much as it takes? So we should spare no expense to guarantee there is no voter fraud?

I have no problem with making sure dead people aren't voting, people aren't registered twice, etc. ID is a little more complicated because not everyone has one.

But absentee ballot fraud doesn't seem to be a problem. If you have evidence to the contrary, I'm all ears.
Yes, you should spare no expense to guarantee as little voter fraud as possible, bad_putin.
So, for example, if a procedure costs $100 million dollars per ballot but can guarantee that there won't be 1 fraudulent ballot, you'd say we should do it?
I think someone was beaten pretty hard with the dumb stick.

I can draw up equally dumbass scenarios for mail in ballots, but you are talking about the difference in cost between in person voter ballots, where people are checking IDs, and people are getting their little slip to mark the X there, and the cost to have people mail in their ballot, and detecting voter fraud by smelling the ballot to see if it smells like Joe Smith.

Feel free to believe in your way, bad_Zimbabwe, but democracy costs a little more.
11/6/2012 7:07 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 6:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/6/2012 1:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by silentpadna on 11/6/2012 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 12:21:00 PM (view original):
There are a lot of problems in the world. People voting by mail is not one of them.
Nah, when ballots show up in the mail for people who've passed away recently (because their names are still on the rolls), no opportunity for this to be a "problem in the world".

Vote by mail is one of the most idiotic concepts ever invented.  That, along with saying that needing photo ID to vote is discriminatory.
Absentee voting has it's place if there's a legitimate reason.  You're in the military and posted oversees (or domestically).  You're in college in another state.  You're on the road for a business trip (or even on vacation).  You're hospitalized.  There are many, many valid reasons why one cannot make it to their designated polling place on election day.

But because it's too inconvenient for you to get to your polling place, or you can't be bothered to possibly stand in line, or you might miss an episode or two of the "Pawn Stars" marathon on the History Channel . . . none of those should be valid reasons to vote by mail.
It seems like his point is that lazy people shouldn't be catered to.

Lazy people should be catered to?  Is that your argument?

11/6/2012 7:20 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 6:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/6/2012 1:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by silentpadna on 11/6/2012 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 12:21:00 PM (view original):
There are a lot of problems in the world. People voting by mail is not one of them.
Nah, when ballots show up in the mail for people who've passed away recently (because their names are still on the rolls), no opportunity for this to be a "problem in the world".

Vote by mail is one of the most idiotic concepts ever invented.  That, along with saying that needing photo ID to vote is discriminatory.
Absentee voting has it's place if there's a legitimate reason.  You're in the military and posted oversees (or domestically).  You're in college in another state.  You're on the road for a business trip (or even on vacation).  You're hospitalized.  There are many, many valid reasons why one cannot make it to their designated polling place on election day.

But because it's too inconvenient for you to get to your polling place, or you can't be bothered to possibly stand in line, or you might miss an episode or two of the "Pawn Stars" marathon on the History Channel . . . none of those should be valid reasons to vote by mail.
It seems like his point is that lazy people shouldn't be catered to.
There are multiple sub-threads of related discussion in this thread.  That often happens in the forums.  You're not new here, so this should not be a surprise to you.

Does that confuse you?  Are you unable to understand more than one thing at a time?
11/6/2012 7:33 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2012 7:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 6:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/6/2012 1:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by silentpadna on 11/6/2012 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 12:21:00 PM (view original):
There are a lot of problems in the world. People voting by mail is not one of them.
Nah, when ballots show up in the mail for people who've passed away recently (because their names are still on the rolls), no opportunity for this to be a "problem in the world".

Vote by mail is one of the most idiotic concepts ever invented.  That, along with saying that needing photo ID to vote is discriminatory.
Absentee voting has it's place if there's a legitimate reason.  You're in the military and posted oversees (or domestically).  You're in college in another state.  You're on the road for a business trip (or even on vacation).  You're hospitalized.  There are many, many valid reasons why one cannot make it to their designated polling place on election day.

But because it's too inconvenient for you to get to your polling place, or you can't be bothered to possibly stand in line, or you might miss an episode or two of the "Pawn Stars" marathon on the History Channel . . . none of those should be valid reasons to vote by mail.
It seems like his point is that lazy people shouldn't be catered to.

Lazy people should be catered to?  Is that your argument?

In this case, yes.
11/6/2012 7:43 PM

Everytime America works towards the LCD, America loses.

11/6/2012 9:31 PM
Today is also Marooned Without a Compass Day.

I think it is getting unfairly overshadowed by the migrant election day. WE NEED A COMMITTEE TO SAVE OBSCURE HOLIDAYS!
11/6/2012 9:31 PM
Speaking of losing, Romney is shitting the bed right now. 4 more years.
11/6/2012 9:33 PM
TIED UP
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11/6/2012 10:00 PM
Then why is it like a morgue over at Fox News?
11/6/2012 10:02 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 11/6/2012 9:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2012 9:31:00 PM (view original):
Speaking of losing, Romney is shitting the bed right now. 4 more years.
Winning in VA, FLA, NC, and MO.

To close in Ohio, Colo, NH
The delusion continues. Oh well, you'll figure it out soon enough.
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