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11/29/2012 10:32 AM
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Posted by tecwrg on 11/28/2012 10:03:00 PM (view original):
In the spirit of bistiza's "correct structure" of a Socialist economic implementation, I'm proud to anounce that I have put together a flawless plan for repelling an extraterrestrial attack on the planet Earth.

I have an extensive background in understanding and dealing with extraterrestrials, but I'm not going to tell you how I came to this knowledge because it's none of your ******* business, and none of you have shown to me that your inferior minds would be able to understand the nuances of my plan.  I'm also not going to divulge any specifics about my plan because, again, nobody here is capable of comprehending the details.

I suspect that others may have given some thought to how to best repel an extraterrestrial attack on our planet, but it's quite obvious to me that nobody else can develop a plan that matches the perfection of my plan.

This may come across as arrogance, but it really isn't.  It's just fact.  I'm smarter than you.  Deal with it, much in the same way that you deal with wallowing in the ignorance of the rest of your meaningless little lives.

You forgot to claim that you've "won" any debates on the subject, based on your own criteria for "winning".
11/29/2012 10:40 AM
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Can we ask WifS to start tracking our W-L record in forum debates?
11/29/2012 10:51 AM
tecwrg
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Posted by silentpadna on 11/29/2012 10:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/28/2012 10:03:00 PM (view original):
In the spirit of bistiza's "correct structure" of a Socialist economic implementation, I'm proud to anounce that I have put together a flawless plan for repelling an extraterrestrial attack on the planet Earth.

I have an extensive background in understanding and dealing with extraterrestrials, but I'm not going to tell you how I came to this knowledge because it's none of your ******* business, and none of you have shown to me that your inferior minds would be able to understand the nuances of my plan.  I'm also not going to divulge any specifics about my plan because, again, nobody here is capable of comprehending the details.

I suspect that others may have given some thought to how to best repel an extraterrestrial attack on our planet, but it's quite obvious to me that nobody else can develop a plan that matches the perfection of my plan.

This may come across as arrogance, but it really isn't.  It's just fact.  I'm smarter than you.  Deal with it, much in the same way that you deal with wallowing in the ignorance of the rest of your meaningless little lives.

You forgot to claim that you've "won" any debates on the subject, based on your own criteria for "winning".
Winning was implied, because superior intellects don't lose.
11/29/2012 10:57 AM
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I'M 1500 -1
11/29/2012 11:08 AM
kermit
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No, no, I distinctly put the W first.
11/29/2012 11:13 AM
antoncresten
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1500- WINS
1-  LOSS(JRJACOBS+ DEBATE OVER SOME HIGH FALUTIN NEW STAT)
1-  DRAW( DENNY PUT ME TO SLEEP OVER CIVIL WAR+ MISSOURI GENERALS)

11/29/2012 11:27 AM
MikeT23
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Undefeated here.

Bow at my feet and I shall not smite ye down, heathen.
11/29/2012 1:07 PM
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Posted by kermit on 11/29/2012 11:08:00 AM (view original):
No, no, I distinctly put the W first.
Heh
11/29/2012 3:59 PM
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You admit that your form of Socialism hasn't been tried anywhere at any time. Yet you're touting it definitively as the best answer.  And yet you don't think you're being arrogant.

If you use data which indicates individual elements of an economic theory are successful and other data which says they would be successful together, it's not a stretch to believe that such a system would in fact be successful even if it hasn't yet been done.

It's simply looking at the data and drawing a logical conclusion. If you think anyone who does that is arrogant, you've got issues I won't even begin to touch.
In the spirit of bistiza's "correct structure" of a Socialist economic implementation

I've given you several pieces of economic theory and information which you don't respond to at all.

Your entire strategy is to ignore the facts I present because you have no way to challenge them. If you could have done it, you would have, but you just keep ignoring the facts. The last time I provided information and an example, no one has yet responded to it, yet I see you have time for a personal attack. 

It must be convenient for you to ignore the material and just launch childish personal attacks whenever you come across someone who presents an argument you can't handle.  Then when they point out your obvious inability to deal with it, you'll attack again and say they must be arrogant.

Next, you'll say some people here agree with you, so that proves you're right. You'll accompany that with another personal attack or two and again ignore the facts and material presented, because when it's too difficult for you to argue your point, your fallback option is childish bullying attempts and personal attacks.

I'm done here. It's pointless trying to have any semblance of a real debate with someone who acts like they are five years old.
11/29/2012 4:07 PM
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If you use data which indicates individual elements of an economic theory are successful and other data which says they would be successful together, it's not a stretch to believe that such a system would in fact be successful even if it hasn't yet been done.

 
Of course it's a "stretch".  Your intellectual dishonesty stems from a clear refusal to acknowledge that there is almost ALWAYS a difference between theory and practice, especially when dealing with human behavior.?  The fact that you don't even recognize your communication style as "arrogance" shows a pathological lack of self-awareness.

Just for kicks, tell us all about a time in recorded history where an economic theory worked perfectly within a given population. 
11/29/2012 4:09 PM
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Posted by toddcommish on 11/29/2012 4:07:00 PM (view original):

If you use data which indicates individual elements of an economic theory are successful and other data which says they would be successful together, it's not a stretch to believe that such a system would in fact be successful even if it hasn't yet been done.

 
Of course it's a "stretch".  Your intellectual dishonesty stems from a clear refusal to acknowledge that there is almost ALWAYS a difference between theory and practice, especially when dealing with human behavior.?  The fact that you don't even recognize your communication style as "arrogance" shows a pathological lack of self-awareness.

Just for kicks, tell us all about a time in recorded history where an economic theory worked perfectly within a given population. 
That's never happened. Even the US is a blend of capitalism and socialism.
11/29/2012 6:46 PM
tecwrg
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"I've given you several pieces of economic theory and information which you don't respond to at all.

Your entire strategy is to ignore the facts I present because you have no way to challenge them. If you could have done it, you would have, but you just keep ignoring the facts. The last time I provided information and an example, no one has yet responded to it, yet I see you have time for a personal attack. 

It must be convenient for you to ignore the material and just launch childish personal attacks whenever you come across someone who presents an argument you can't handle.  Then when they point out your obvious inability to deal with it, you'll attack again and say they must be arrogant."

Bullshit.

You've presented a number of statements as "fact", but when those statements are questioned, or you are asked to provide some evidence to back up your statements, you either dismiss the questions as (a) irrelevant, or (b) having already been answered but that the respondent is not capable of understanding your answers because of intellectual inferiority.  You've also gone to the "my theories have never been implemented correctly so there is no tangible proof beyond the inherent obvious correctness of them" well more than once.

You keep chiding me and others for personal attacks against you.  Yet you continuously keep pointing out your superior knowledge (and everybody else's inferior knowledge) on the subject at hand.  Your arrogance is a personal attack on everybody who dares question or challenge you.  Pot, meet the kettle.

You have continuously refused to answer direct questions with direct answers throughout this thread.  Yet you have claimed "victory" from your series of unsubstantiated statements and unproven theories..

You are a tool.

11/29/2012 7:38 PM (edited)
silentpadna
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This  ^^^^^^^

I rarely come to the that type of conclusion in a debate, but one thing I've learned in the 30+ years since school and that consistently rings true is:

1 - If you have to tell others you are an intellectual

and

2 - have to say you "won" a debate,

then...

generally neither is true.

At this point, as much as I usually don't mind going through the economic points in a forum discussion, in this case (to borrow a biblical term), it's "pearls before swine".  Someone who cannot see and recognize their own attitudes to this extent isn't going to carry on a logical discussion no matter how much they claim to be doing so...

And finally, in the spirit of economic education, bis should feel free to do as suggested earlier:  run the numbers from the IRS that show tax rates and their correlations to both GDP and share of the burden, superimposed on the timeline of tax policy changes.  The effect of incentives on human behavior are almost impossible to ignore.
11/30/2012 12:59 AM
The Taint
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Damn, this is still going on?
11/30/2012 4:41 AM
antoncresten
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NO
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