4/4/2013 4:47 PM
Not everybody believes that gay marriage is "making something right".  Just because you and bad_luck believe that does not necessarily make it so.
4/4/2013 4:56 PM
When I say that tec, I'm assuming Mike thinks it might the right thing to do, but he's scared of moving too fast.  That's what it sounds like, anyway.
4/4/2013 4:59 PM
If you want to dive deeper and share the issues you have with SSM, tec, I'd love to hear them.
4/4/2013 5:00 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2013 4:34:00 PM (view original):
Our society moves much faster now but it took a 100 years before a black man could sit at the same counter and eat lunch.   I'd say the gay movement is moving much, much faster.
It is.  Messages and ideas spread quicker now with better technology.  So while I understand where you are coming from, being uncomfortable with making something right because it's moving too fast isn't the best reason.
Sez you.

I don't know if it's right.   I think it is.   But I have no religious thoughts on the matter.   It's difficult to convince people everything they've believed in is wrong.   I'm not so quick to shove it down their throat.

Morally, I think we're far worse off than we were 20 years ago.  Even more so than 50 years ago.    Despite what AT&T tells us, fast isn't always better.
4/4/2013 5:03 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 4:59:00 PM (view original):
If you want to dive deeper and share the issues you have with SSM, tec, I'd love to hear them.
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Also, page 2.  
3/29/2013 11:11 AM
4/4/2013 5:06 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 4/4/2013 5:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 4:59:00 PM (view original):
If you want to dive deeper and share the issues you have with SSM, tec, I'd love to hear them.
Page 1 of this thread.  3/28/2013 9:28 PM

Also, page 2.  
3/29/2013 11:11 AM
I didn't say repeat yourself, I said dive deeper.

If it's no, that's fine.
4/4/2013 5:07 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2013 5:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2013 4:34:00 PM (view original):
Our society moves much faster now but it took a 100 years before a black man could sit at the same counter and eat lunch.   I'd say the gay movement is moving much, much faster.
It is.  Messages and ideas spread quicker now with better technology.  So while I understand where you are coming from, being uncomfortable with making something right because it's moving too fast isn't the best reason.
Sez you.

I don't know if it's right.   I think it is.   But I have no religious thoughts on the matter.   It's difficult to convince people everything they've believed in is wrong.   I'm not so quick to shove it down their throat.

Morally, I think we're far worse off than we were 20 years ago.  Even more so than 50 years ago.    Despite what AT&T tells us, fast isn't always better.
Yes, and I've said before that it's hard to argue against someone's religious beliefs.  You run into a brick wall.  It is what it is.
4/4/2013 5:08 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 4/4/2013 4:47:00 PM (view original):
Not everybody believes that gay marriage is "making something right".  Just because you and bad_luck believe that does not necessarily make it so.
What would be wrong with allowing gay marriage?
4/4/2013 5:09 PM
A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin.  If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed.

(Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
4/4/2013 5:09 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 4/4/2013 5:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 4/4/2013 4:47:00 PM (view original):
Not everybody believes that gay marriage is "making something right".  Just because you and bad_luck believe that does not necessarily make it so.
What would be wrong with allowing gay marriage?
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Also, page 2.  
3/29/2013 11:11 AM
4/4/2013 5:11 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 5:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 4/4/2013 5:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 4:59:00 PM (view original):
If you want to dive deeper and share the issues you have with SSM, tec, I'd love to hear them.
Page 1 of this thread.  3/28/2013 9:28 PM

Also, page 2.  
3/29/2013 11:11 AM
I didn't say repeat yourself, I said dive deeper.

If it's no, that's fine.
My post is pretty self-explanatory of my thoughts on the subject.  Not sure a deeper dive is necessary.
4/4/2013 5:12 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 5:09:00 PM (view original):
A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin.  If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed.

(Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
Time to go kill my wife. See you guys in 10.
4/4/2013 5:12 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 5:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2013 5:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2013 4:34:00 PM (view original):
Our society moves much faster now but it took a 100 years before a black man could sit at the same counter and eat lunch.   I'd say the gay movement is moving much, much faster.
It is.  Messages and ideas spread quicker now with better technology.  So while I understand where you are coming from, being uncomfortable with making something right because it's moving too fast isn't the best reason.
Sez you.

I don't know if it's right.   I think it is.   But I have no religious thoughts on the matter.   It's difficult to convince people everything they've believed in is wrong.   I'm not so quick to shove it down their throat.

Morally, I think we're far worse off than we were 20 years ago.  Even more so than 50 years ago.    Despite what AT&T tells us, fast isn't always better.
Yes, and I've said before that it's hard to argue against someone's religious beliefs.  You run into a brick wall.  It is what it is.
Well, would you agree that homosexuality is more accepted today than it was 2 years ago?  10 years ago?  20 years ago?

If so, it's just a matter of time before gay marriage is a "What?  It's not legal?  Who knew?"

It will become akin to a black man drinking from the same fountain.   "What?  We wouldn't let them?  When?"    That was less than 50 years ago.   Seems insane, doesn't it?   Bet your grandad remembers it.   And probably thought it was the right thing to do.
4/4/2013 5:12 PM
Posted by tecwrg2 on 4/4/2013 5:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 5:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 4/4/2013 5:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 4:59:00 PM (view original):
If you want to dive deeper and share the issues you have with SSM, tec, I'd love to hear them.
Page 1 of this thread.  3/28/2013 9:28 PM

Also, page 2.  
3/29/2013 11:11 AM
I didn't say repeat yourself, I said dive deeper.

If it's no, that's fine.
My post is pretty self-explanatory of my thoughts on the subject.  Not sure a deeper dive is necessary.
If I asked a follow-up question, would you answer it?
4/4/2013 5:14 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2013 5:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 5:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2013 5:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 4/4/2013 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2013 4:34:00 PM (view original):
Our society moves much faster now but it took a 100 years before a black man could sit at the same counter and eat lunch.   I'd say the gay movement is moving much, much faster.
It is.  Messages and ideas spread quicker now with better technology.  So while I understand where you are coming from, being uncomfortable with making something right because it's moving too fast isn't the best reason.
Sez you.

I don't know if it's right.   I think it is.   But I have no religious thoughts on the matter.   It's difficult to convince people everything they've believed in is wrong.   I'm not so quick to shove it down their throat.

Morally, I think we're far worse off than we were 20 years ago.  Even more so than 50 years ago.    Despite what AT&T tells us, fast isn't always better.
Yes, and I've said before that it's hard to argue against someone's religious beliefs.  You run into a brick wall.  It is what it is.
Well, would you agree that homosexuality is more accepted today than it was 2 years ago?  10 years ago?  20 years ago?

If so, it's just a matter of time before gay marriage is a "What?  It's not legal?  Who knew?"

It will become akin to a black man drinking from the same fountain.   "What?  We wouldn't let them?  When?"    That was less than 50 years ago.   Seems insane, doesn't it?   Bet your grandad remembers it.   And probably thought it was the right thing to do.
I would know gay marriage wasn't legal when there were no gay marriages.  

"Why aren't you guys married?"
"We're not allowed to be."
"REALLY? That's insane."
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