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Posted by bad_luck on 6/10/2013 9:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 6/10/2013 8:46:00 PM (view original):
There are lots of reasons why people may personally decide that homosexuality is wrong.  The reason I provided is just one of them.

And I'd really like to see you expound on your claim that people who wait until their 30's to have kids is somehow a problem.
Waiting until you are past 30 to have kids increases the rate of birth defects. If everyone waited until they were over 30 to have kids, the evolution of the human race would suffer.

Like being gay, waiting to have kids is still ok because everyone isn't going to do it and it won't impact the human race as a whole.
What is the rate of birth defects for children born to parents over the age of 30 in comparison to the rate of birth defects of those born to under-30 parents?

If you're going to make claims such as this, and try to imply that it is dangerous to the human race, you'd better back it up with some evidence.

Otherwise, you're nothing more than Bistiza Jr.
6/10/2013 9:14 PM
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Would you have the patience, at 44, to deal with any kid?
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From all our research into the matter, I believe the number was somewhere from 6 to 8 percent for a mother over 40 to have a child with "some" sort of defect.  Those were the average numbers taken from a whole lot of studies.
6/10/2013 9:22 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/10/2013 9:17:00 PM (view original):
Would you have the patience, at 44, to deal with any kid?
I'm pretty patient with my 8 month old niece.  I think if it was my child I would have the patience...but that is totally just a guess.  I hate kids for the most part...but love my families kids.
6/10/2013 9:23 PM
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Posted by The Taint on 6/10/2013 9:08:00 PM (view original):
No they don't, but I wonder how many of the people that are totally against homosexuality are against it because of religion.  My guess is 100 percent because it's the root of the hatred of it.  I can't think of any other reason why people would even question it.
People can form their own opinions and their own sense of personal morality without religion as a basis.

A good friend of mine is a very strong self-avowed athiest.  He's also has one of the strongest senses of integrity and morality of anybody I know.
6/10/2013 9:30 PM
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Is he against gay marriage?
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God hates fags and athiests.   I don't even want to imagine what He thinks of gay athiests. 
6/10/2013 9:32 PM
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Posted by tecwrg on 6/10/2013 9:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 6/10/2013 9:08:00 PM (view original):
No they don't, but I wonder how many of the people that are totally against homosexuality are against it because of religion.  My guess is 100 percent because it's the root of the hatred of it.  I can't think of any other reason why people would even question it.
People can form their own opinions and their own sense of personal morality without religion as a basis.

A good friend of mine is a very strong self-avowed athiest.  He's also has one of the strongest senses of integrity and morality of anybody I know.
So you think that if someone isn't taught that homosexuality is wrong, it is default in people to think it is wrong?
6/10/2013 9:33 PM
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Unnatural would be more fitting than "wrong".

 

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Posted by The Taint on 6/10/2013 9:31:00 PM (view original):
Is he against gay marriage?
It never came up in discussion.
6/10/2013 9:34 PM
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In other words, that homosexuality is instinctually wrong?
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Posted by tecwrg on 6/10/2013 9:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/10/2013 9:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 6/10/2013 8:46:00 PM (view original):
There are lots of reasons why people may personally decide that homosexuality is wrong.  The reason I provided is just one of them.

And I'd really like to see you expound on your claim that people who wait until their 30's to have kids is somehow a problem.
Waiting until you are past 30 to have kids increases the rate of birth defects. If everyone waited until they were over 30 to have kids, the evolution of the human race would suffer.

Like being gay, waiting to have kids is still ok because everyone isn't going to do it and it won't impact the human race as a whole.
What is the rate of birth defects for children born to parents over the age of 30 in comparison to the rate of birth defects of those born to under-30 parents?

If you're going to make claims such as this, and try to imply that it is dangerous to the human race, you'd better back it up with some evidence.

Otherwise, you're nothing more than Bistiza Jr.
Canadian study. They focused on mothers over 35. I will gladly retract my original statement about parents over 30 and replace it with mothers over 35. Either way, older mom = wrong as gays in evolutionary terms (maybe worse since gays aren't actually saddling society with a generation of impaired children).
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/10/2013 9:34:00 PM (view original):

Unnatural would be more fitting than "wrong".

 

Hmmmm, I suppose that could be more likely.



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Posted by The Taint on 6/10/2013 9:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/10/2013 9:34:00 PM (view original):

Unnatural would be more fitting than "wrong".

 

Hmmmm, I suppose that could be more likely.



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That would make it "instinctually wrong" or whatever term you used.

Like it or not, assuming you believe in evolution, we came from animals of some sort.    There's not a lot of "openly gay" animals. 
6/10/2013 9:38 PM
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There are a ton of animals that have engaged in homosexual behavior while being studied.
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