6/26/2013 11:56 AM
Uh, no.

Regardless of the standard you hold them to or the standard they should set, another judge agreeing does not indicate no personal bias.
6/26/2013 11:57 AM
Posted by The Taint on 6/26/2013 11:56:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2013 11:53:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 11:37:00 AM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 11:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 6/26/2013 11:30:00 AM (view original):
So a straight judge couldn't be biased against homosexuality? Bullshit.
Sure he could.  Do you think there's an equal chance of that impacting his decision, as compared to Walker? 

EDIT: Worded poorly.  Do you think there's an equal chance of this situation happening, and then having it impact his decision, as compared to Walker?
I think it's just as likely that there's a straight judge biased against homosexuals.
Holyfuckshit.

A gay judge ruling in favor of SSM is just as likely as a straight judge ruling against it.

Are you straight?
Are you in favor of SSM?
Do you know any gays who are not in favor of SSM?
Do you think any gays are not in favor of SSM?

Edit:
Why would a homosexual be AGAINST SSM?
Google it. You'll find plenty of examples.
Or you could just tell me.   If there are so many examples.
6/26/2013 12:01 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2013 11:53:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 11:37:00 AM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 11:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 6/26/2013 11:30:00 AM (view original):
So a straight judge couldn't be biased against homosexuality? Bullshit.
Sure he could.  Do you think there's an equal chance of that impacting his decision, as compared to Walker? 

EDIT: Worded poorly.  Do you think there's an equal chance of this situation happening, and then having it impact his decision, as compared to Walker?
I think it's just as likely that there's a straight judge biased against homosexuals.
Holyfuckshit.

A gay judge ruling in favor of SSM is just as likely as a straight judge ruling against it.

Are you straight?
Are you in favor of SSM?
Do you know any gays who are not in favor of SSM?
Do you think any gays are not in favor of SSM?

Edit:
Why would a homosexual be AGAINST SSM?
So you don't think it's likely that a straight judge would be biased against gays?
6/26/2013 12:02 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2013 11:56:00 AM (view original):
Uh, no.

Regardless of the standard you hold them to or the standard they should set, another judge agreeing does not indicate no personal bias.
Everyone has personal bias. Was the decision legally sound?
6/26/2013 12:02 PM
You'll just have to take my word for it then.

If you open one judge to scrutiny of bias, make sure you open them all. Is Clarence Thomas conservatively biased because his wife makes money from a Conservative lobby?
6/26/2013 12:02 PM
LOL.   http://nogaymarriage.wordpress.com/

Very convincing argument.
6/26/2013 12:04 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 12:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2013 11:53:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 11:37:00 AM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 6/26/2013 11:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 6/26/2013 11:30:00 AM (view original):
So a straight judge couldn't be biased against homosexuality? Bullshit.
Sure he could.  Do you think there's an equal chance of that impacting his decision, as compared to Walker? 

EDIT: Worded poorly.  Do you think there's an equal chance of this situation happening, and then having it impact his decision, as compared to Walker?
I think it's just as likely that there's a straight judge biased against homosexuals.
Holyfuckshit.

A gay judge ruling in favor of SSM is just as likely as a straight judge ruling against it.

Are you straight?
Are you in favor of SSM?
Do you know any gays who are not in favor of SSM?
Do you think any gays are not in favor of SSM?

Edit:
Why would a homosexual be AGAINST SSM?
So you don't think it's likely that a straight judge would be biased against gays?
I think it's possible but less likely.    As outlined by my 5 questions.

I think a poll at Westboro Church would very likely be against SSM.
I think the same poll taken at a gay bar in San Fran would very likely be for SSM.

6/26/2013 12:05 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2013 11:56:00 AM (view original):
Uh, no.

Regardless of the standard you hold them to or the standard they should set, another judge agreeing does not indicate no personal bias.
Yea, this.  As I said, that's besides the point.

And I agree with his decision, obviously.  But show me a homosexual judge in a long-term relationship, and I'll show you someone who absolfuckinglutely will be ruling to allow SSM.
6/26/2013 12:05 PM
Posted by The Taint on 6/26/2013 12:02:00 PM (view original):
You'll just have to take my word for it then.

If you open one judge to scrutiny of bias, make sure you open them all. Is Clarence Thomas conservatively biased because his wife makes money from a Conservative lobby?
Sure, I have no problem with that.   I believe all of us know some judges lean liberal, some lean conservative.   That's pretty much why they're appointed. 
6/26/2013 12:10 PM
You're ok with a Supreme Court judge being biased in his rulings? Possibly because he profits from it?
6/26/2013 12:11 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2013 12:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 6/26/2013 12:02:00 PM (view original):
You'll just have to take my word for it then.

If you open one judge to scrutiny of bias, make sure you open them all. Is Clarence Thomas conservatively biased because his wife makes money from a Conservative lobby?
Sure, I have no problem with that.   I believe all of us know some judges lean liberal, some lean conservative.   That's pretty much why they're appointed. 
So what exactly are we arguing?
6/26/2013 12:12 PM
Posted by The Taint on 6/26/2013 12:10:00 PM (view original):
You're ok with a Supreme Court judge being biased in his rulings? Possibly because he profits from it?
I'm OK with knowing that he probably is biased in his rulings for some reason.    Republicans don't appoint liberal judges, Democrats don't appoint conservative judges.   Do you disagree?
6/26/2013 12:13 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 12:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2013 12:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 6/26/2013 12:02:00 PM (view original):
You'll just have to take my word for it then.

If you open one judge to scrutiny of bias, make sure you open them all. Is Clarence Thomas conservatively biased because his wife makes money from a Conservative lobby?
Sure, I have no problem with that.   I believe all of us know some judges lean liberal, some lean conservative.   That's pretty much why they're appointed. 
So what exactly are we arguing?
The fact that you don't believe a gay judge in a long-term relationship with another man could be just a little biased regarding SSM.
6/26/2013 12:18 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2013 12:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/26/2013 12:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2013 12:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 6/26/2013 12:02:00 PM (view original):
You'll just have to take my word for it then.

If you open one judge to scrutiny of bias, make sure you open them all. Is Clarence Thomas conservatively biased because his wife makes money from a Conservative lobby?
Sure, I have no problem with that.   I believe all of us know some judges lean liberal, some lean conservative.   That's pretty much why they're appointed. 
So what exactly are we arguing?
The fact that you don't believe a gay judge in a long-term relationship with another man could be just a little biased regarding SSM.
I didn't say he wasn't biased. Just that it looks like he was able to put aside his personal bias (all judges have some bias) and issue a legally sound ruling.
6/26/2013 12:18 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/26/2013 12:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 6/26/2013 12:10:00 PM (view original):
You're ok with a Supreme Court judge being biased in his rulings? Possibly because he profits from it?
I'm OK with knowing that he probably is biased in his rulings for some reason.    Republicans don't appoint liberal judges, Democrats don't appoint conservative judges.   Do you disagree?
Not for the most part but if a Supreme Court justice is showing bias in his decisions because he may profit fom it, we have a problem and its not ok.
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