7/3/2013 2:57 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/3/2013 2:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/3/2013 2:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/3/2013 2:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 2:17:00 PM (view original):
OK, this is why I didn't play the "Oh yeah, name one!!" game.

Every time a right is granted, taken away or never given, it's going to be "special circumstance".    Because, theoretically, we're all granted the same rights.  In reality, we are not.  

Point remains.   Different circumstances require different laws(or "rights" if you will).   

"your country destroyed our way of living and murdered millions of our people"

"i'm sexually attracted to someone of the same sex"

I understand that the first sentence may require a special circumstance.  I don't understand why the second sentence does.
Your lack of understanding is fairly obvious.

It's not a special circumstance if you're asking for the same rights as everyone else.

Are you OK with non-native Americans not being allowed to open casinos at their will?
Yes. State laws don't discriminate in this issue (the laws apply the same to everyone within the state's jurisdiction). I'd prefer it if anyone could open a casino, but that's not the law in most states. If I want to open a casino, I probably have to move to Nevada.

7/3/2013 2:59 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/3/2013 2:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/3/2013 2:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/3/2013 2:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 2:17:00 PM (view original):
OK, this is why I didn't play the "Oh yeah, name one!!" game.

Every time a right is granted, taken away or never given, it's going to be "special circumstance".    Because, theoretically, we're all granted the same rights.  In reality, we are not.  

Point remains.   Different circumstances require different laws(or "rights" if you will).   

"your country destroyed our way of living and murdered millions of our people"

"i'm sexually attracted to someone of the same sex"

I understand that the first sentence may require a special circumstance.  I don't understand why the second sentence does.
Your lack of understanding is fairly obvious.

It's not a special circumstance if you're asking for the same rights as everyone else.

Well that's what I mean. The analogy is that the special circumstance is "you can't marry your partner. everyone else can." "you cant open a casino. They can."
I didn't mean to give you a dick answer. I was in full mike response mode. Sorry, burns.
7/3/2013 2:59 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 2:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/3/2013 2:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 2:50:00 PM (view original):
Out of curiousity, what harm would come from me opening a casino half a mile down the street from Chief Nokahoma's casino?
Honestly? Probably nothing. Harm to Chief's casino.
So, really, it's just some willy-nilly law that was made because the Chief and I are different people?
States don't have jurisdiction over reservations. If you don't live on a reservation, you have to follow state law. This applies equally to everyone.
7/3/2013 3:00 PM
HAHAHA.   I'm so deep in your tiny brain that you don't even bother reading who posted.

********.
7/3/2013 3:01 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/3/2013 2:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 2:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/3/2013 2:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 2:50:00 PM (view original):
Out of curiousity, what harm would come from me opening a casino half a mile down the street from Chief Nokahoma's casino?
Honestly? Probably nothing. Harm to Chief's casino.
So, really, it's just some willy-nilly law that was made because the Chief and I are different people?
States don't have jurisdiction over reservations. If you don't live on a reservation, you have to follow state law. This applies equally to everyone.
Unacceptable.   Rights are being given based on heritage.   Discrimination at it's finest.
7/3/2013 3:02 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 3:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/3/2013 2:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 2:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/3/2013 2:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 2:50:00 PM (view original):
Out of curiousity, what harm would come from me opening a casino half a mile down the street from Chief Nokahoma's casino?
Honestly? Probably nothing. Harm to Chief's casino.
So, really, it's just some willy-nilly law that was made because the Chief and I are different people?
States don't have jurisdiction over reservations. If you don't live on a reservation, you have to follow state law. This applies equally to everyone.
Unacceptable.   Rights are being given based on heritage.   Discrimination at it's finest.
Rights based on heritage...like citizenship? That happens. Everywhere. Not discrimination.
7/3/2013 3:03 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 3:00:00 PM (view original):
HAHAHA.   I'm so deep in your tiny brain that you don't even bother reading who posted.

********.
I misread his post on my phone screen. Made a mistake. Apologized.

I know apologies are a foreign thing for you (but not mistakes).
7/3/2013 3:04 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 2:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/3/2013 2:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 2:50:00 PM (view original):
Out of curiousity, what harm would come from me opening a casino half a mile down the street from Chief Nokahoma's casino?
Honestly? Probably nothing. Harm to Chief's casino.
So, really, it's just some willy-nilly law that was made because the Chief and I are different people?
Well, it's not willy-nilly. I explained the reasoning. It's kinda stupid, honestly. Casinos weren't always a way of life for Native Americans.
7/3/2013 3:05 PM
Discrimination based on heritage.   

Willy-nilly laws depriving me of the right to earn a living the way I see fit.
7/3/2013 3:06 PM
Native Americans can't open casinos on land not within reservations.  It's not based on heritage, it's based on the local laws.  Not federally regulated at all.  And has no bearing whatsoever on federal regulation of marriage, which remains unconstitutional.  Whether or not same-sex couples can marry - or adopt - remains governed by state laws.  I don't understand what you have your panties in bunch about.  You follow the laws in your state or reservation, that's true for everyone.  I think you're confusing your rights as a citizen of the nation with your rights as a citizen of your state.
7/3/2013 3:45 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 3:05:00 PM (view original):
Discrimination based on heritage.   

Willy-nilly laws depriving me of the right to earn a living the way I see fit.
Again, it's "discrimination based on heritage" only because we murdered millions of that particular heritage and invaded their home, so instead of forcing those that are left to live in our "new" world, we set up land for them to continue to live the way they want to.  If you want to argue there's some backwardness to the situation, I don't think I'd argue.

I'm sorry you can't see the difference between this scenario, and with not letting homosexuals marry each other.
7/3/2013 3:53 PM
Please reference the great Native American casino that was open in 1703.

Again, it's just a "special circumstance" where the laws are applied differently.    But, other than those "special circumstances" where rights are not the same for all citizens, we all have the same rights. 

Am I spelling words wrong here?  Because, if I'm not, I don't get why you don't get that all American citizens do NOT have the same rights. 
7/3/2013 4:05 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/3/2013 3:53:00 PM (view original):
Please reference the great Native American casino that was open in 1703.

Again, it's just a "special circumstance" where the laws are applied differently.    But, other than those "special circumstances" where rights are not the same for all citizens, we all have the same rights. 

Am I spelling words wrong here?  Because, if I'm not, I don't get why you don't get that all American citizens do NOT have the same rights. 
I do understand why Native Americans have different privileges, and I've explained it several times.
7/3/2013 4:07 PM
It isn't a special circumstance. Reservations are sovereign land not subject to state jurisdiction.
7/3/2013 4:10 PM

Do we need reservations?    Hell, the blacks have recovered well enough from slavery.    Are Native Americans so ******* stupid they can't figure out how to live in this crazy world with moving pictures and talking machines?

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