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And now it's my turn, so what?

We live in a world where actions have consequences but we still allow people personal freedom to do things that may or may not be bad for society as a whole, like watching porn and jerking off all day.
7/8/2013 2:41 PM
What about child porn?  Shouldn't people be allowed to have the personal freedom to look at or watch child porn?  I'm not talking about making or producing it, but looking at what's already been produced and available. 

What's the harm?
7/8/2013 2:50 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2013 2:41:00 PM (view original):
And now it's my turn, so what?

We live in a world where actions have consequences but we still allow people personal freedom to do things that may or may not be bad for society as a whole, like watching porn and jerking off all day.
So what?   Maybe society would be better off if some personal freedoms didn't exist.
7/8/2013 2:56 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2013 2:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2013 2:41:00 PM (view original):
And now it's my turn, so what?

We live in a world where actions have consequences but we still allow people personal freedom to do things that may or may not be bad for society as a whole, like watching porn and jerking off all day.
So what?   Maybe society would be better off if some personal freedoms didn't exist.
Cool, so no porn, so people will be more productive during the day.  And no SSM because...it may lead to polygamy and **** you, you can't have everything you want in life.

Wait, banning porn makes more sense than banning SSM?
7/8/2013 2:59 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2013 2:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2013 2:41:00 PM (view original):
And now it's my turn, so what?

We live in a world where actions have consequences but we still allow people personal freedom to do things that may or may not be bad for society as a whole, like watching porn and jerking off all day.
So what?   Maybe society would be better off if some personal freedoms didn't exist.
Like guns?
7/8/2013 3:04 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2013 3:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2013 2:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2013 2:41:00 PM (view original):
And now it's my turn, so what?

We live in a world where actions have consequences but we still allow people personal freedom to do things that may or may not be bad for society as a whole, like watching porn and jerking off all day.
So what?   Maybe society would be better off if some personal freedoms didn't exist.
Like guns?
Perhaps.  But I think we know the criminal element would get guns.   Are you comparing homosexuals to criminals?    That seems a bit harsh.
7/8/2013 3:13 PM
tec's comparing homosexuality to child porn.  Yell at him instead.
7/8/2013 3:16 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/8/2013 3:16:00 PM (view original):
tec's comparing homosexuality to child porn.  Yell at him instead.
I'm not.

I'm trying to ascertain if bad_luck has any limits on "personal freedoms" that don't impact anybody, i.e. "what's the harm?".
7/8/2013 3:20 PM
I know what tec's doing.

As I said earlier, BL has painted himself into the "Everything should be OK" corner.    tec's just trying to see if he has any morals whatsoever.

To his credit, BL quickly abandoned his "It doesn't affect anybody else" stance.   Not sure why I didn't bring it up 270 pages ago.
7/8/2013 3:22 PM
Are you saying that people would stop jerking off if we did what you want and made it illegal?
7/8/2013 3:22 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2013 3:22:00 PM (view original):
I know what tec's doing.

As I said earlier, BL has painted himself into the "Everything should be OK" corner.    tec's just trying to see if he has any morals whatsoever.

To his credit, BL quickly abandoned his "It doesn't affect anybody else" stance.   Not sure why I didn't bring it up 270 pages ago.
Gay marriage doesn't harm anyone. It should be allowed. Other things can be evaluated as they come.
7/8/2013 3:25 PM (edited)
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2013 3:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2013 3:22:00 PM (view original):
I know what tec's doing.

As I said earlier, BL has painted himself into the "Everything should be OK" corner.    tec's just trying to see if he has any morals whatsoever.

To his credit, BL quickly abandoned his "It doesn't affect anybody else" stance.   Not sure why I didn't bring it up 270 pages ago.
Gay marriage does harm anyone. It should be allowed. Other things can be evaluated as they come.
It does?

It has an effect on society.  One of it's proponents in this thread isn't sure if it's big or small.  I could assume that he's unsure if it's good or bad.   I know I don't know.   Time will tell.
7/8/2013 3:25 PM
Edited to fix typo
7/8/2013 3:26 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2013 3:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2013 3:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2013 3:22:00 PM (view original):
I know what tec's doing.

As I said earlier, BL has painted himself into the "Everything should be OK" corner.    tec's just trying to see if he has any morals whatsoever.

To his credit, BL quickly abandoned his "It doesn't affect anybody else" stance.   Not sure why I didn't bring it up 270 pages ago.
Gay marriage does harm anyone. It should be allowed. Other things can be evaluated as they come.
It does?

It has an effect on society.  One of it's proponents in this thread isn't sure if it's big or small.  I could assume that he's unsure if it's good or bad.   I know I don't know.   Time will tell.
You're assuming I'm not sure if gay marriage is good or bad?
7/8/2013 3:29 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/8/2013 3:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2013 3:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/8/2013 3:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/8/2013 3:22:00 PM (view original):
I know what tec's doing.

As I said earlier, BL has painted himself into the "Everything should be OK" corner.    tec's just trying to see if he has any morals whatsoever.

To his credit, BL quickly abandoned his "It doesn't affect anybody else" stance.   Not sure why I didn't bring it up 270 pages ago.
Gay marriage does harm anyone. It should be allowed. Other things can be evaluated as they come.
It does?

It has an effect on society.  One of it's proponents in this thread isn't sure if it's big or small.  I could assume that he's unsure if it's good or bad.   I know I don't know.   Time will tell.
You're assuming I'm not sure if gay marriage is good or bad?
I know you have no idea if it will have a good or bad effect on society.     You may THINK you know but you don't.  
7/8/2013 3:33 PM
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