DOMA & Prop 8 Topic

Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 11:13:00 AM (view original):
Why do you believe that it's not harmless?  Who is getting harmed by watching?
Ok, I agree with you, merely watching something on a TV, regardless of what it is, is completely harmless.

If you walk into your neighbor's house and his TV is playing child porn, you watching it harms no one. In the same way that the police watch the porn when collecting evidence.

What's your point?
So you go from this post at 11:19am, in which you say that watching child porn is "completely harmless", to a post at 1:29pm in which you say watching child porn is "harmful".

You're just all over the place today, aren't you?

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
7/10/2013 2:53 PM
Seems he can't make his argument actually fit his argument.
7/10/2013 2:57 PM
7/10/2013 3:03 PM
7/10/2013 3:12 PM
If the round hole is big enough, you can do it.
7/10/2013 3:13 PM
It appears that badluck has accepted that his square pegs will not fit into the round hole he dug for himself.

7/10/2013 4:05 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 2:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 11:13:00 AM (view original):
Why do you believe that it's not harmless?  Who is getting harmed by watching?
Ok, I agree with you, merely watching something on a TV, regardless of what it is, is completely harmless.

If you walk into your neighbor's house and his TV is playing child porn, you watching it harms no one. In the same way that the police watch the porn when collecting evidence.

What's your point?
So you go from this post at 11:19am, in which you say that watching child porn is "completely harmless", to a post at 1:29pm in which you say watching child porn is "harmful".

You're just all over the place today, aren't you?

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
I'm more than happy to clarify once you answer whether or not you think watching child porn is harmful.
7/10/2013 4:48 PM
OK.  In this very unique vacuum where a person finds child porn in a garbage can, brings it home and watches it by himself, isn't this particular person being harmed?  I'm pretty sure watching child porn isn't good for you, mentally.  In the same way if you watch people being murdered over and over again...it probably messes you up, even if you enjoy it.  Maybe that person is more likely to rape a child if he watches enough of it?

I'm not sure what tec is getting at.
7/10/2013 4:58 PM
He's trying to argue that something can still be illegal even if it isn't harmful to anyone else. Which is true. Prostitution and recreational drug use are two examples.

He's using child porn instead because if he used prostitution or drug use, I'd say, "you're right, we should go ahead and legalize prostitution and drug use."

The circumstance is so narrow (someone finds child porn, didnt buy it, didnt produce it, only watches it by themselves) that you can't really say it's harmful by itself but it's still illegal and no one would argue that child porn possession should be legal.

To that I say, simple possession should remain illegal because the production of child porn is so harmful that anyone with any association to it, even simple possession, should face legal consequences.

And that's where it differs from gay marriage. Gay marriage isn't harmful, even remotely. Child porn is.
7/10/2013 5:21 PM
Well yea, there are laws that protect ourselves from ourselves.
7/10/2013 5:29 PM

He actually found something that qualified under your "Big 3" for allowing damn near anything that would be repulsive to pretty much anyone with a moral bone in their body.   When presented with it, BL has stumbled, mumbled, changed directions and STFU for the last 36 hours.    "Makes people happy", "Allows more personal freedom" and "Doesn't hurt anyone" are bullshit reasons to makes laws.

7/10/2013 9:05 PM
Is equality a good reason? And I established how watching child porn is harmful.
7/10/2013 9:17 PM
Well, no.  You haven't.  

Unless you consider "I'm pretty sure that it might mess you up mentally, maybe" is what you consider "establishing" something as fact.
7/10/2013 9:43 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 4:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 2:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 11:13:00 AM (view original):
Why do you believe that it's not harmless?  Who is getting harmed by watching?
Ok, I agree with you, merely watching something on a TV, regardless of what it is, is completely harmless.

If you walk into your neighbor's house and his TV is playing child porn, you watching it harms no one. In the same way that the police watch the porn when collecting evidence.

What's your point?
So you go from this post at 11:19am, in which you say that watching child porn is "completely harmless", to a post at 1:29pm in which you say watching child porn is "harmful".

You're just all over the place today, aren't you?

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
I'm more than happy to clarify once you answer whether or not you think watching child porn is harmful.
For the umpteenth time . . . when the topic of discussion is YOUR beliefs and opinions, my opinion is irrelevant.

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
7/10/2013 10:02 PM
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/10/2013 4:59:00 PM (view original):
OK.  In this very unique vacuum where a person finds child porn in a garbage can, brings it home and watches it by himself, isn't this particular person being harmed?  I'm pretty sure watching child porn isn't good for you, mentally.  In the same way if you watch people being murdered over and over again...it probably messes you up, even if you enjoy it.  Maybe that person is more likely to rape a child if he watches enough of it?

I'm not sure what tec is getting at.
I missed this piece of dumbassery.

Does watching porn making you more likely to rape a woman?
7/10/2013 10:14 PM
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