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5/17/2012 8:12 AM
MikeT23
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What happens if you have an unassigned player at season's end?     He becomes a FA.    In this case, he retired.

Nonetheless, you CANNOT have unassigned players when the season completes.  Everyone knows roster edit is removed the very second the WS ends.
5/17/2012 8:52 AM
crickett13
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Posted by isack24 on 5/16/2012 10:14:00 PM (view original):
I think it's ridiculous that people are blaming this on the OP.

Why should I assume that I would lose the prospect to retirement AND my traded player to the trade just because I'm near the end of the season?

The trade either should have (1) gone through with no problems or (2) been voided upon completion of the season.  

Unless anyone can point me to another HBD player with projecteds in 70s that retired at 20 without something weird going on.  Real world examples are obviously inapplicable.

Something weird did go on. He was left unassigned.

5/17/2012 10:21 AM
MikeT23
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Even better, if WifS doesn't reinstate the player, he's done with HBD.  I love these threads.
5/17/2012 12:20 PM
soursurfer
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Yeah, the only correct solution here is to disallow trading once the WS begins.  I don't really think the OP or WIS is all that much to blame, but it wouldn't hurt for WIS to put such a safeguard in given the unfortunate possible outcomes.
5/17/2012 12:22 PM
MikeT23
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IIRC, you cannot update secondary positions when the WS begins.   Seems silly that you can offer trades within that time frame.
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5/17/2012 1:23 PM
zbrent716
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/17/2012 12:22:00 PM (view original):
IIRC, you cannot update secondary positions when the WS begins.   Seems silly that you can offer trades within that time frame.
You can't even update secondary positions when *playoffs* begin, unless it changed in the last couple months and I didn't notice.

I sure hope it did change, because that's always annoyed me a bit.
5/17/2012 1:32 PM
MikeT23
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I do think you can make roster moves until the bitter end.  I'll check in a few days in Mantle.

That could be, zbrent.   I know I've signed some picks/IFA late in the season to spend prospect budget and wasn't able to assign secondary positions.  It very well could have been in the playoffs and not the WS.
5/17/2012 2:19 PM
jsturgis5866
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Posted by zbrent716 on 5/17/2012 1:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/17/2012 12:22:00 PM (view original):
IIRC, you cannot update secondary positions when the WS begins.   Seems silly that you can offer trades within that time frame.
You can't even update secondary positions when *playoffs* begin, unless it changed in the last couple months and I didn't notice.

I sure hope it did change, because that's always annoyed me a bit.
No, it's still that way... as soon as the reg. season ends. Drives me friggin' crazy. But then I tend to change players' positions frequently.
5/17/2012 2:22 PM
jsturgis5866
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What's been lost as this subject continues is that the player's ratings, projected or otherwise, has nothing whatsoever to do with anything. There are two issues: (1) owner (and not a newb) taking responsibility for doing something dumb, and (2) WIS allowing trades or anything else to continue after the WS ends. WIS's action is dumber by a mile, but it didn't start a thread to bring attention to it.
5/17/2012 8:37 PM
greeny9
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I should think the obvious outcome in this kind of situation is that the trade gets nullified automatically if its not completed when the WS ends.  As though the trade never even happened.  And I think turning trades off when the WS starts seems to be an easy fix to this...
5/17/2012 9:01 PM
MikeT23
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Something just occurred to me so I checked.   Here's an interesting fact:  Trade was completed at 3:03 PM.   Games are not played on the 3 PM cycle.     IOW, there was time to assign this player.   It just wasn't done.

I think we can shut this thread down now.
5/17/2012 9:05 PM
MikeT23
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It occurred to me because trades process after games are played.    So it seemed like the deal would have been nullified when the WS did end.
5/17/2012 9:11 PM
tecwrg
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/17/2012 9:01:00 PM (view original):
Something just occurred to me so I checked.   Here's an interesting fact:  Trade was completed at 3:03 PM.   Games are not played on the 3 PM cycle.     IOW, there was time to assign this player.   It just wasn't done.

I think we can shut this thread down now.
That's a good find.  The original poster played with fire and got burned.  Can't let WIS take the rap at all on this one.
5/17/2012 9:51 PM
MikeT23
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Just another "I screwed up, WifS should fix this" thread.
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