Effective ML SP or not Topic

Can this guy Davy Colon be effective as a 4th SP?
3/25/2013 4:55 PM
How about Ariel Estraella?
3/25/2013 4:56 PM
Yes they could be. They are not studs but given enough starts  Colon will post a WHIP of around 1.35 and Estrella about 1.40 in an average park with an average defense.
3/25/2013 5:25 PM
Yes. Yes.
3/25/2013 5:27 PM
Id say Colon will be a marginally effective LRA with a pull rating of 4 or even 5.  The 59 vs right combined with the measly velocity of 52 means he will be throwing a lot of pitches between outs, and many of them will be ineffective.  If his velocity was 99 Id have no problem having him start games and with a pull of 3.

As for Estraella his 52 vs R is obviously terrible, but his vel is awesome, and his 2-5 pitches are great.  I think he could be a 5th starter with a high pull of 4 maybe even 5.  If his 1st pitch was elite like 97+ Id give him the 3rd starter position with a pull of 3-4 though.

3/25/2013 5:40 PM
I don't think velocity is nearly as important as greeny does.
3/25/2013 5:46 PM
Velocity determines the amount of strikeouts a pitcher gets, so if u can get a guy out quicker the less crappy pitches will be thrown. Regardless his crappy vsR will keep him very ineffective.
3/25/2013 6:48 PM
greeny is canadian and likes a spot where they wear sweaters. Don't take anything he says seriously
3/25/2013 7:17 PM
Oh and they are both slightly better than Slick Sheppard who is the #3 for your Ottowa club greeny
3/25/2013 7:20 PM
Posted by crickett13 on 3/25/2013 5:25:00 PM (view original):
Yes they could be. They are not studs but given enough starts  Colon will post a WHIP of around 1.35 and Estrella about 1.40 in an average park with an average defense.
+1
3/25/2013 8:51 PM
Yep, I think these guys are exactly #4 starters.  Not quite good enough to start in the playoffs, but they both have good control and pitches to offset their weak splits.  Depending on your defense, I would expect 200+ innings from each in the 4.00-4.50 ERA range.
3/25/2013 9:10 PM
Both can be effective starters. I'd take Estraella over Colon, but both are ML material for sure.
3/25/2013 10:43 PM
Anyone who says a 59 VR can't be effective is a dumbass.  Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Esteban Mercado
3/25/2013 10:50 PM
I haven't give him a full shot but Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: George Cannon has thrown 50 effective innings at 51 VR.
3/25/2013 10:58 PM
Ebenezer Bush - Splits under 50, but look at his stats. Over 1300 Big League innings and still under 4.5 ERA.
3/26/2013 12:36 AM
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