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3/3/2012 6:03 AM
marshall always ends up pretty significantly higher than he should.  He's really only 4th tier yet he almost always ends up with 22-23% usage on my teams.
4/9/2012 1:33 PM
UCLA Bruins

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
69-70 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 44 8/18 0/0 0/0 3 11 3 5 0 1 5 16
00-01 Baron Davis* 40 7/18 2/7 2/3 1 4 11 0 2 1 3 18
77-78 Marques Johnson* 31 6/15 0/1 2/2 5 10 1 1 1 3 3 14
79-80 Swen Nater* 29 4/9 0/0 0/2 2 10 1 0 0 1 0 8
99-00 Tracy Murray 25 3/7 2/3 1/1 0 2 0 0 0 1 2 9
08-09 Trevor Ariza* 23 3/6 1/2 0/0 3 7 1 0 0 2 3 7
82-83 Bill Walton 13 2/3 0/0 0/0 1 2 3 0 0 0 2 4
87-88 Mike Sanders 10 2/5 0/0 0/0 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 4
03-04 Jerome Moiso 10 2/2 0/0 2/2 1 3 0 1 0 0 0 6
05-06 Earl Watson 8 3/8 3/4 1/1 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 10
03-04 Jason Kapono 6 2/4 1/1 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5
97-98 Gerald Madkins 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
TOTALS   42/95 9/18 8/11 16 51 22 7 3 11 20 101
  44.2% 50.0% 72.7%  
Houston Cougars

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
69-70 Elvin Hayes* 48 12/27 0/1 3/5 6 13 3 3 0 2 1 27
97-98 Bo Outlaw* 38 3/6 0/0 0/0 3 10 1 2 0 0 0 6
97-98 Mookie Blaylock* 37 4/14 1/2 3/3 1 5 5 0 3 1 0 12
87-88 Hakeem Olajuwon* 32 6/13 0/0 5/7 4 13 1 3 2 1 2 17
91-92 Clyde Drexler* 31 9/14 1/2 8/12 1 5 5 0 1 4 4 27
79-80 Dwight Jones 16 5/10 0/0 0/2 0 2 2 1 0 1 0 10
07-08 Damon Jones 15 1/1 1/1 3/3 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 6
99-00 Sam Mack 11 1/1 0/0 0/0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 2
04-05 Bostjan Nachbar 6 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0
90-91 Cadillac Anderson 3 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
10-11 Steve Novak 3 1/1 1/1 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 3
98-99 Al Harrington 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
TOTALS   42/87 4/7 22/32 15 53 20 9 6 9 9 110
  48.3% 57.1% 68.8%  
* - denotes game starter
4/9/2012 1:35 PM
minutes controls

Marques and Swen were both set at 35 minutes, neither had any foul trouble - Sanders and Moiso were both set at 5 minutes, this was game 5 and now they will be tired

the answer/fix has been given to them on a platter but for a couple years now they have done nothing about it

(and yes I do think that a 10-20% variation (or 200% for that matter) is significant, dont you?)
4/10/2012 12:56 PM
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4/9/2012 10:38 AM felonius
swen nater was set for 34 minutes, he played 29 (no fouls at all)- this is egregious, especially considering the fatigue penalty that will set in for lower minutes players at the 10 game mark

I've already given you guys a perfectally sensible and easy to program solution to most of the minutes management issues experienced in the sim. You've been sitting on that solution (more timeouts) for several years now.

I dont expect you to tell me anything I dont already know but I like to practice typing
4/10/2012 11:51 AM Customer Support
Charles,

Thanks for the feedback. As I'm sure you know, the flow of the game can affect minutes played a little bit.
4/10/2012 12:55 PM felonius
which is why you should program in scheduled time outs like they have in real life

also you could add conditional timeouts in response to scoring runs adding even more realism while addressing/mitigating the issues with your time management system

 
8/29/2012 3:01 AM
This thread cannot die.

Ashville Mustangs

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
85-86 Charles Barkley* 45 11/20 0/2 1/2 4 21 3 1 4 5 5 23
92-93 Larry Johnson* 44 10/20 0/0 1/1 2 5 3 0 0 0 2 21
78-79 Norm Nixon* 42 9/17 0/2 3/4 1 2 10 0 3 6 4 21
90-91 Glen Rice* 33 8/15 2/2 3/5 1 4 3 0 2 4 2 21
98-99 Ben Wallace* 26 4/7 0/0 1/3 7 11 0 1 0 1 3 9
96-97 Arvydas Sabonis 22 7/15 1/2 0/0 2 4 3 1 0 1 1 15
08-09 Steve Novak 14 2/5 1/2 0/0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 5
84-85 Derek Harper 6 1/1 1/1 2/2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 5
93-94 Hubert Davis 4 2/3 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 4
07-08 Leon Powe 2 1/1 0/0 0/0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 2
05-06 Emeka Okafor 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0
TOTALS   55/104 5/11 11/17 17 50 22 6 10 19 18 126
  52.9% 45.5% 64.7%  
Baltimore Bandits

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
04-05 Dwyane Wade* 40 13/28 1/2 7/12 1 6 9 1 3 6 2 34
82-83 Jeff Ruland* 29 8/16 0/0 1/3 5 13 2 3 0 2 3 17
87-88 Dennis Rodman* 29 6/10 0/0 1/2 5 9 3 3 3 2 3 13
01-02 Mike Miller* 27 4/14 1/4 2/2 0 2 2 1 1 1 1 11
72-73 Clifford Ray* 25 2/2 0/0 0/0 4 8 3 1 0 3 3 4
03-04 Kirk Hinrich 23 6/12 4/8 4/5 1 1 7 0 1 3 0 20
78-79 Tree Rollins 20 3/5 0/0 1/2 1 4 0 2 0 0 1 7
93-94 Alonzo Mourning 19 6/7 0/0 5/5 0 3 1 1 1 1 3 17
07-08 Ime Udoka 9 1/1 0/0 0/0 0 3 1 0 0 0 1 2
04-05 Leandro Barbosa 9 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0
84-85 Dale Ellis 7 1/2 0/0 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 2
TOTALS   50/97 6/14 21/31 17 52 29 12 10 19 18 127

10/28/2012 2:43 AM
44 turnovers?  For real??

MAY STEALERS

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
75-76 Don Buse* 40 3/5 1/2 0/0 0 5 9 0 11 2 0 7
02-03 Tracy McGrady* 37 15/34 4/10 4/4 2 5 6 0 4 5 1 38
82-83 Moses Malone* 35 8/19 0/0 0/0 5 10 0 4 2 4 0 16
80-81 Freeman Williams* 24 6/13 1/1 2/2 2 3 2 0 10 4 2 15
84-85 Alvin Robertson 21 1/3 0/0 1/2 3 5 4 0 1 1 4 3
94-95 Dennis Rodman* 21 1/3 0/0 2/3 3 9 0 0 0 4 2 4
87-88 Trent Tucker 17 3/7 2/4 0/0 0 0 0 0 2 3 3 8
10-11 Tyrus Thomas 14 3/5 0/0 2/4 2 5 0 0 2 3 3 8
2012  Charles Melton 11 1/2 0/0 0/0 3 5 1 0 1 0 0 2
98-99 Jelani McCoy 9 2/4 0/0 0/0 0 1 0 0 1 1 2 4
90-91 Tree Rollins 8 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0
2012  Dennis Burns 2 1/2 0/0 0/0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 2
TOTALS   44/97 8/17 11/15 21 51 22 4 34 28 17 107
  45.4% 47.1% 73.3%  
Ash Carolina Mustangs

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
66-67 Wilt Chamberlain* 45 8/18 0/0 1/4 5 17 8 3 2 15 2 17
96-97 Michael Jordan* 41 11/21 0/3 0/1 0 4 3 3 4 10 1 22
09-10 Jason Kidd* 35 1/5 1/4 1/2 0 5 8 3 3 3 2 4
88-89 Dennis Rodman* 26 3/7 0/0 0/0 0 2 2 0 2 4 0 6
94-95 Dennis Rodman* 19 2/7 0/0 0/0 5 8 1 0 1 3 3 4
2012  Leslie Walker 14 1/3 0/0 2/3 0 5 1 0 0 2 0 4
2012  Bryan Rodriquez 13 2/5 0/0 1/2 0 0 2 0 3 0 1 5
98-99 Dennis Rodman 12 0/0 0/0 0/0 1 3 0 1 0 1 0 0
96-97 Kenny Smith 11 2/2 2/2 1/2 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 7
2012  Jerry Downey 10 0/0 0/0 0/0 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 0
72-73 Goose Ligon 7 2/3 0/0 0/0 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 4
94-95 Trevor Ruffin 6 1/3 0/2 2/2 0 1 0 0 0 5 0 4
TOTALS   33/74 3/11 8/16 13 47 26 10 17 44 13 77
  44.6% 27.3% 50.0%  
* - denotes game starter
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10/28/2012 8:29 AM
I (don't) like Ruffin's 5 to's in his 6 minutes of action.
11/11/2012 3:01 PM
HANDS OF STONE

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
09-10 LeBron James* 36 7/15 2/6 7/8 1 4 12 2 2 4 1 23
09-10 Dwight Howard* 36 7/13 0/0 0/0 2 9 0 5 2 3 3 14
93-94 Dennis Rodman* 33 3/6 1/1 3/4 3 14 0 0 0 4 4 10
03-04 Donyell Marshall* 32 5/12 2/5 0/0 2 9 0 1 1 1 1 12
06-07 Manu Ginobili* 24 5/15 0/6 4/4 1 3 7 1 3 2 1 14
95-96 Arvydas Sabonis 24 5/9 1/2 0/0 2 9 1 1 0 3 1 11
94-95 Clyde Drexler 18 3/9 0/2 1/2 2 3 3 0 4 1 0 7
11-12 Brandan Wright 13 2/5 0/0 3/3 0 3 0 0 2 0 1 7
11-12 Stephen Curry 12 1/3 1/2 0/0 0 1 4 0 2 1 0 3
07-08 Marcus Banks 6 2/3 2/3 0/0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 6
10-11 Jeremy Evans 3 2/2 0/0 0/0 1 1 1 0 2 0 1 4
70-71 Bill Hosket 3 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
TOTALS   42/92 9/27 18/21 14 58 28 10 18 19 14 111
  45.7% 33.3% 85.7%  
Major Tom

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
02-03 Ben Wallace* 37 3/7 0/0 2/2 3 11 1 3 2 2 0 8
90-91 Dennis Rodman* 36 2/6 0/1 0/0 2 7 0 1 0 3 4 4
09-10 LeBron James* 35 6/19 0/4 2/3 0 5 9 1 2 7 1 14
84-85 Bill Walton 27 2/7 0/0 0/0 1 5 3 2 2 1 5 4
06-07 Manu Ginobili* 24 2/10 0/3 0/0 0 1 1 0 0 3 2 4
05-06 Gerald Wallace 24 5/11 0/0 1/1 0 5 1 0 1 6 2 11
09-10 Matt Bonner 19 1/4 1/4 0/0 2 5 0 1 0 1 2 3
08-09 Dwight Howard* 16 4/7 0/0 0/0 0 2 0 3 0 6 6 8
97-98 Cory Alexander 13 1/6 0/3 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 2
05-06 Reggie Evans 5 1/1 0/0 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 2 1 2
99-00 Haywoode Workman 2 0/1 0/1 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
00-01 Mark Strickland 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
TOTALS   27/79 1/16 5/6 8 44 15 11 7 32 23 60
  34.2% 6.3% 83.3%  


seble should be fired - great example of why
11/11/2012 5:03 PM
There are so many outliers in that box score that my head might explode.
11/11/2012 5:58 PM (edited)
if you were wondering if Dwight Howard could foul Dwight Howard out of a game in 16 minutes the answer is yes - I'm pretty sure that we've all wondered: "what if Dwight faced himself? would he foul himself out in 16 minutes?" we've done that, right?

my feeling is this - 2 teams with a lot of players in common, fairly similar make-up should never (given the notional objectives of this game) be 50 points apart because of abberant outcomes - we are clearly not getting what we pay for when we draft - instead we are grabbing a handful of dice and hoping to get a chance to shout Yachtzee!

(and also a) seble (and his "wis-listing" ilk) is/are total lying tools and b) fox ruined this site)
11/14/2012 10:30 AM
from the sim match-up page: "Historical match-ups are awesome, but you can take it a step forward with SimLeague Basketball.  Build your own dream team of historical players and then compete for prizes against other members in a full-season.  Leagues simulate 2 games per day and include extensive stat tracking and gm options. There's also the X's and O's stuff -- depth charts (that dont work), double-teams (that dont work), tempo, defensive sets (that have negligible impact) and more!"

isnt there some sort of law about misrepresenting your product?
11/15/2012 2:59 PM
not my teams but here's this work of art:

DoneDeal -Limited Edition-

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
57-58 Bill Russell* 48 8/24 0/1 0/0 7 22 0 4 2 2 0 16
99-00 Chris Mullin* 48 0/21 0/12 0/0 1 3 2 1 6 4 5 0
08-09 Steve Novak* 48 5/28 4/21 0/0 1 6 0 0 1 4 4 14
57-58 Sam Jones* 48 5/20 1/4 2/2 5 10 3 1 4 7 1 13
75-76 Bob Gross* 27 1/3 0/1 2/2 1 3 2 1 0 4 6 4
91-92 David Robinson 14 2/5 0/0 0/0 0 3 0 1 2 2 4 4
09-10 Jason Kidd 6 0/1 0/0 0/0 0 0 3 0 1 0 0 0
69-70 Wilt Chamberlain 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0
TOTALS   21/102 5/39 4/4 15 47 10 9 16 23 20 51
  20.6% 12.8% 100.0%  
Decadence

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
57-58 Bill Russell* 41 8/16 0/0 0/0 4 22 1 1 1 7 0 16
69-70 Walt Frazier* 40 6/11 1/1 3/3 0 10 5 0 1 4 1 16
09-10 Jason Kidd* 38 5/14 3/8 0/0 0 8 12 1 4 1 0 13
76-77 Julius Erving* 36 6/10 0/0 5/7 3 12 3 3 5 3 1 17
91-92 David Robinson* 33 8/13 0/0 4/6 2 7 2 3 0 5 0 20
88-89 Joe Dumars 19 4/9 0/0 2/2 0 1 4 0 0 4 0 10
80-81 Magic Johnson 19 4/7 0/0 2/4 2 11 4 1 1 6 4 10
76-77 George T. Johnson 11 1/4 0/0 0/0 3 6 0 2 0 1 0 2
69-70 Wilt Chamberlain 4 0/1 0/1 0/0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 0
TOTALS   42/85 4/10 16/22 14 79 31 11 12 31 7 104
  49.4% 40.0% 72.7%  
11/15/2012 5:32 PM
I actually can explain some of that... unlike your previous post.
11/15/2012 6:13 PM
Posted by felonius on 11/15/2012 2:59:00 PM (view original):
not my teams but here's this work of art:

DoneDeal -Limited Edition-

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
57-58 Bill Russell* 48 8/24 0/1 0/0 7 22 0 4 2 2 0 16
99-00 Chris Mullin* 48 0/21 0/12 0/0 1 3 2 1 6 4 5 0
08-09 Steve Novak* 48 5/28 4/21 0/0 1 6 0 0 1 4 4 14
57-58 Sam Jones* 48 5/20 1/4 2/2 5 10 3 1 4 7 1 13
75-76 Bob Gross* 27 1/3 0/1 2/2 1 3 2 1 0 4 6 4
91-92 David Robinson 14 2/5 0/0 0/0 0 3 0 1 2 2 4 4
09-10 Jason Kidd 6 0/1 0/0 0/0 0 0 3 0 1 0 0 0
69-70 Wilt Chamberlain 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0
TOTALS   21/102 5/39 4/4 15 47 10 9 16 23 20 51
  20.6% 12.8% 100.0%  
Decadence

PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PM/3PA FTM/FTA OREB REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
57-58 Bill Russell* 41 8/16 0/0 0/0 4 22 1 1 1 7 0 16
69-70 Walt Frazier* 40 6/11 1/1 3/3 0 10 5 0 1 4 1 16
09-10 Jason Kidd* 38 5/14 3/8 0/0 0 8 12 1 4 1 0 13
76-77 Julius Erving* 36 6/10 0/0 5/7 3 12 3 3 5 3 1 17
91-92 David Robinson* 33 8/13 0/0 4/6 2 7 2 3 0 5 0 20
88-89 Joe Dumars 19 4/9 0/0 2/2 0 1 4 0 0 4 0 10
80-81 Magic Johnson 19 4/7 0/0 2/4 2 11 4 1 1 6 4 10
76-77 George T. Johnson 11 1/4 0/0 0/0 3 6 0 2 0 1 0 2
69-70 Wilt Chamberlain 4 0/1 0/1 0/0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 0
TOTALS   42/85 4/10 16/22 14 79 31 11 12 31 7 104
  49.4% 40.0% 72.7%  
That looks like a throw-away game. Mullin, Novak, etc should be playing a few minutes a game (not 48).  That poor shooting isn't surprising.
11/15/2012 7:52 PM
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