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12/5/2012 5:05 AM (edited)
Merkle
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Identifying AAA Players

This is an attempt to put the current state of knowledge together in one place in a concise form.

The credit for figuring out how the ratings work is not entirely known to me. The hitter ratings for Power, Speed and Stamina were known when I first started playing WIS.  Whoever cracked the Power rating deserves some special credit.  If anyone knows who is responsible, please post the information.
I figured out how the contact rating worked and toddcommish came up with the search strategy. I worked out the four pitcher ratings. The precise boundaries for one, Effectiveness, may still be subject to changes of a few hundreds. Effectiveness has no neat numerical boundaries or consistently sized groupings like the other ratings. The demarcation between Effectiveness 7 and 8 for example is someplace between 3.4674 and 3.4682. This and the logical, but confusing, behavior of the WIS search engine means that there will always be small overlaps in the search ranges for Effectiveness - unless someone thinks it worthwhile to ID nearly every AAA pitcher.

 
POSITION PLAYERS
 
CONTACT
Based on singles per 100 at bats (1B/100AB) 
 
Rating                Range                                  
    1                    0 to 7
    2                    7 to 9
    3                    9 to 11
    4                    11 to 13
    5                    13 to 15
    6                    15 to 17
    7                    17 to 19
    8                    19 to 21
    9                    21 to 23
  10                    23 and up                               
 
POWER
Based on home runs per 100 at bats (HR/100AB)
 
Rating                Range
    1                    0 to .5
    2                   .5 to 1
    3                    1 to 2
    4                    2 to 3
    5                    3 to 4
    6                    4 to 5
    7                    5 to 6
    8                    6 to 7
    9                    7 to 8
  10                    8 and up               
               
SPEED
Based on WIS speed rating (SP)
 
Rating                 Range
   1                     Not used
   2                     Not used
   3                     20 to 29
   4                     30 to 39
   5                     40 to 49
   6                     50 to 59
   7                     60 to 69
   8                     70 to 79
   9                     80 to 89
 10                     90 to 100                             
 
STAMINA
Based plate appearances per 162 games (PA/162)
 
Rating                 Range                                  
   A                     500 and up                         
   B                     450 to 500                         
   C                     400 to 450                         
   D                     350 to 400                          
   E                     300 to 350                         
   F                     150 to 300
 
SALARY RANGES:
Below Average          364,170 to 1,574,999
Average (OL)          1,575,000 to 2,599,999
Above Average       2,600,000 to 3,874,999
WAA                         3,875,000 to 9,651,076
Random                  1,575,000 to 4,425,000
(These salary ranges are valid through the 10/2012 update)


PITCHERS
 
CONTROL
 Based on walks per 100 plate appearances (BB/100PA) 
 
Rating                 Range
    1                    13.5 and up
    2                    12.5 to 13.5
    3                    11.5 to 12.5
    4                    10.5 to 11.5
    5                     9.5 to 10.5
    6                     8.5 to 9.5
    7                     7.5 to 8.5
    8                     6.5 to 7.5
    9                     5.5 to 6.5
  10                     0.0 to 5.5
 
 
VELOCITY
Based on strike outs per 100 at bats (K/100AB)
                                                              
Rating                Range
   1                     0.0 to 7.5
   2                     7.5 to 8.5
   3                     8.5 to 10.5
   4                     10.5 to 11.5
   5                     11.5 to 12.5
   6                     12.5 to 13.5
   7                     13.5 to 14.5
   8                     14.5 to 15.5
   9                     15.5 to 16.5
  10                    16.5 and up                          

STAMINA
Based on innings pitched per game (IP/G)                                                
Rating                 Range                                  
   A                     7.00 and up                        
   B                     6.00 to 7.00                        
   C                     4.00 to 6.00                        
   D                     2.00 to 4.00                        
   E                     1.00 to 2.00                        
   F                     0.00 to 1.00                        
 
EFFECTIVENESS
Based on normalized ERC (ERC#)
 
Rating                Range
   1                     5.73 up
   2                     5.07 to 5.75
   3                     4.64 to 5.08
   4                     4.30 to 4.66
   5                     4.01 to 4.32
   6                     3.74 to 4.02
   7                     3.46 to 3.75
   8                     3.15 to 3.47
   9                     2.74 to 3.16
 10                     0.00 to 2.75
 
SALARY RANGES:

Below Average     SP    200,000 to  949,999   (except 2012 Jeremy Guthrie 1,233,930 - reason unknown)  
                                RP    200,000 to   699,999

Average (OL)        SP    950,000 to 1,849,999    
                                RP   700,000 to 1,499,999

Above Average     SP 1,850,000 to 3,449,999  
                                RP 1,500,000 to 2,774,999

WAA                        SP 3,450,000 to 9,174,893  
                                RP 2,775,000 to 5,246,064

Random                SP    700,000 to 5,250,000 
                                RP    475,000 to 4,250,000
 (Salary ranges valid through 10/2012 update)
 
 
SEARCHING FOR AAA PLAYERS
 
I’ll state the obvious here for those who aren’t familiar with searching for AAA players. 
In the Draft Center set up a position player search and limit for batting side (R, L or S) and primary position for hitters or for pitchers set up a pitcher search and select RP or SP and right handed or left. For both hitters and pitchers set games to 0 and the hitter or pitcher salary range to fit the AAA level you received.  Then set up the stats used in the charts plus fielding and range.  This requires using the “advanced” search features of WIS and setting the user selectable search fields to PA/162, 1B/100AB, HR/100AB, speed,  fielding and range (plus arm for catchers) for hitters or to BB/100PA, K/100AB, ERC#, IP/G, fielding and range for pitchers. Enter the values from the charts into the appropriate fields and search away.
 
 
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5/21/2009 4:48 AM
fencer024
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outstanding work Merkle. I never found the time to post updated charts, and to tell the truth haven't played a AAA league in quite a while. Might have to find one now.
5/23/2009 2:00 PM
crazystengel
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Thanks, Merkle!
5/23/2009 9:23 PM
soxyanks12
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Hey merkle great job and thank you...noticed you only missed the fielding chart. Here it is!
A+12C+6
A11C5
A-10C-4
B+9D+3
B8D2
B-7D-1
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6/11/2009 1:52 AM
FishNasty
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where's the video??????
6/24/2009 9:36 AM
contrarian23
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Bump
6/24/2009 9:59 AM
Funksteady1
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wow, I had missed that thread, thanks for the bump, mystery no more!
6/24/2009 7:02 PM
skinndogg
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I did a search for one of my Triple AAA pitchers

If I'm understanding this right...Here's what I come up with.

That's quite a wide range of possibilities of who my Triple AAA pitcher is based off.

Am I understanding this correctly?

Control 9
Velocity 1
Effectiveness 7
Stamina A


1 Draft Player Sanders, Ben 1890 Philadelphia Athletics R 429 19 18 1 3.76 1.39 .283 2.78 4.49 7.34 3.68 8.06 1.79 $10,203,087 C/B-
2 Draft Player Orth, Al 1902 Washington Senators R 386 19 18 0 3.97 1.26 .286 2.11 3.00 5.91 3.74 8.53 1.11 $8,233,425 C/B+
3 Draft Player Clarke, Dad 1895 New York Giants R 349 18 15 1 3.39 1.41 .289 2.14 4.90 5.76 3.51 7.61 1.92 $8,191,455 D/D
4 Draft Player Orth, Al 1898 Philadelphia Phillies R 272 15 13 0 3.02 1.37 .288 1.87 4.96 5.16 3.84 7.81 1.91 $5,734,205 B/C+
5 Draft Player Mitchell, Roy 1913 St. Louis Browns R 260 13 16 1 3.01 1.27 .280 2.16 4.71 6.24 3.75 7.43 1.72 $5,333,192 C/B+
6 Draft Player Lake, Joe 1911 St. Louis Browns R 230 10 15 0 3.30 1.32 .282 2.88 4.38 7.93 3.57 7.18 1.67 $5,205,204 C/A+
7 Draft Player Stratton, Scott 1891 Louisville Colonels R 226 6 15 0 3.92 1.36 .277 2.70 4.68 7.18 3.75 8.65 1.84 $5,027,946 C/A+
8 Draft Player Bonham, Tiny 1944 New York Yankees R 225 12 9 0 2.99 1.26 .273 2.27 4.62 6.46 3.57 8.22 1.73 $4,972,982 A/D+
9 Draft Player Stratton, Scott 1891 Pittsburgh Pirates R 226 6 15 0 3.92 1.36 .277 2.70 4.68 7.18 3.91 8.65 1.84 $4,809,896 C/A+
10 Draft Player Stratton, Scott 1891 Louisville Colonels R 204 6 13 0 4.08 1.38 .282 2.72 4.49 7.19 3.92 8.60 1.78 $4,348,283 C/A+
11 Draft Player Cuppy, Nig 1898 Cleveland Spiders R 140 9 8 0 3.30 1.34 .286 1.90 4.59 5.25 3.95 7.11 1.76 $2,714,558 B/D+
12 Draft Player Cuppy, Nig 1901 Boston Americans R 112 4 6 0 4.15 1.34 .292 2.12 3.54 5.79 3.68 7.18 1.35 $2,321,547 B/D
13 Draft Player Miller, Roscoe 1902 New York Giants R 87 1 8 0 4.58 1.21 .271 1.86 3.67 5.28 3.56 7.27 1.36 $1,778,720 B/A+
14 Draft Player Quarles, Bill 1893 Boston Beaneaters R 34 2 1 0 4.67 1.33 .274 2.00 4.24 5.31 3.51 9.00 1.67 $665,923 B/C-
6/24/2009 7:06 PM
crazystengel
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Well, right off the bat, you've got different fielding/range for these pitchers you've listed. What's your AAA pitcher's fielding/range? Look for an exact match.
6/24/2009 7:15 PM
skinndogg
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MLB - 55 NBA - 1 NFL - 1 HD - 55 GD - 27




"What's your AAA pitcher's fielding/range?"

That must be my problem :)

But,Where's is that information for a AAA pitcher?

I just see the 4 ratings on his information page.
6/24/2009 7:15 PM
toddcommish
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Also, is it Below Average, Average, AA, or WAA?

The salaries will also shrink the pool.
6/24/2009 7:16 PM
toddcommish
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Put him in a trade, and click fielding ratings.
6/25/2009 1:19 PM
willsauve
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What are the salary ranges on random AAA? Does everyone get the same total $$ amount of AAA or can some people get extremely lucky and have a $10M+ advantage?
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