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3/26/2014 10:37 AM (edited)
Beginning of Season #70
  School Players A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
1. Missouri St. 12 75 50 46 76 42 58 47 47 44 74 78 62 C 699
2. S. Illinois 12 66 55 53 62 43 57 48 50 44 72 73 75 C 698
3. Indiana St. 12 71 62 39 76 36 43 53 52 53 58 70 59 C 672
4. N. Iowa 11 60 50 42 60 44 47 51 54 54 67 73 54 C+ 678
5. Evansville 12 58 54 50 60 43 57 48 48 51 64 75 51 C 655
6. Illinois St. 12 56 46 53 61 42 60 53 48 47 57 72 55 C 651
7. W. Kentucky 12 73 45 45 77 36 52 48 43 40 54 71 61 C 645
8. Creighton 10 59 46 52 69 51 45 34 40 44 60 72 58 C+ 680
9. Gardner-Webb 11 49 51 42 48 33 49 44 49 43 74 74 65 C+ 643
10. Bradley 12 63 51 38 64 27 46 45 47 47 61 72 58 C 618
11. Wichita St. 12 58 49 39 53 30 49 46 48 53 57 72 62 C 615
12. Drake 10 58 42 43 63 36 47 41 42 38 55 70 56 C 631

Walk-ons Removed
3/26/2014 10:52 AM (edited)
Freshman Class
1. Scott Herman RS PF N. Iowa 56 53 49 48 41 89 36 53 47 86 65 69 C 692
2. Christopher Grosz RS SG Illinois St. 72 52 40 62 41 34 64 66 40 86 76 45 B- 678
3. Richard Steele Fr. PF Evansville 44 38 80 60 77 73 12 31 40 39 85 72 F 651
4. Eugene Prosser Fr. C Missouri St. 68 21 95 62 82 44 3 25 19 72 74 75 C- 640
5. Christopher Lee Fr. PF Missouri St. 69 26 47 82 29 83 14 31 47 64 86 50 D+ 628
6. Walter Work RS PG Bradley 55 80 1 60 2 25 65 74 51 90 66 55 C+ 624
7. Bob Lowery Fr. SG Drake 64 69 29 60 19 12 69 62 54 63 74 41 C 616
8. Jeffery Thomas Fr. PG Missouri St. 68 61 24 64 11 42 64 58 40 63 76 36 C 607
9. Willy Cole Fr. SF S. Illinois 58 46 44 35 43 65 57 37 33 65 67 51 C- 601
10. Chris Harrison Fr. PF Indiana St. 62 37 65 64 69 39 30 25 39 35 60 68 C- 593
11. Dave Schwebke Fr. SG Evansville 48 71 24 54 12 35 59 65 74 56 75 19 C 592
12. Keith Arrington Fr. SF Illinois St. 48 52 31 49 25 26 49 58 60 73 71 49 D 591
13. James Vollmer RS SF Missouri St. 49 46 40 51 39 44 37 33 58 79 69 46 B+ 591
14. Brandon Brumfield Fr. PF Drake 60 26 62 58 63 81 32 29 10 55 54 60 D+ 590
15. Brian Delatorre Fr. PF Illinois St. 31 23 52 35 50 81 49 17 53 72 62 63 D 588
16. Joshua Hall RS C W. Kentucky 77 16 72 67 59 85 12 11 30 67 60 27 C- 583
17. Kenneth Mills Fr. SG Evansville 58 63 18 51 12 27 51 64 68 76 66 27 C- 581
18. Paul Roberson RS PG Creighton 83 68 10 72 11 12 57 69 49 57 70 20 B- 578
19. Daniel Bicknell Fr. PF Illinois St. 51 27 67 43 56 45 23 43 18 72 76 57 C- 578
20. Tommy Swanson Fr. PG Gardner-Webb 59 60 12 55 8 14 60 69 41 80 68 51 C 577
21. Daniel Shell Fr. PG N. Iowa 50 81 1 59 1 10 65 70 57 49 74 54 C- 571
22. Joseph Turner Fr. C Evansville 53 21 79 60 74 43 29 19 27 55 53 55 C 568
23. Rick Turner Fr. SG S. Illinois 77 51 15 53 1 45 46 49 36 85 60 50 C+ 568
24. Christopher Crowl Fr. C W. Kentucky 76 19 76 64 69 51 27 23 19 33 68 42 C- 567
25. Robert Fowler Fr. PG W. Kentucky 40 72 1 51 1 1 90 62 69 54 70 51 C 562
Highlighted were a RS last season and are not incoming Freshman
3/26/2014 4:40 PM
1. ACC: 39 recruits, 907 points
2. PAC 10: 39 recruits, 790 points
3. Big 12: 40 recruits, 769 points
4. Big East: 35 recruits, 734 points
5. Big Ten: 32 recruits, 713 points
6. Missouri Valley: 34 recruits, 657 points
7. SEC: 38 recruits, 648 points
8. Mountain West: 41 recruits, 642 points
9. Ivy League: 39 recruits, 596 points
10. Patriot League: 47 recruits, 551 points
11. Southland: 50 recruits, 538 points
12. Northeast: 46 recruits, 534 points
13. Conference USA: 42 recruits, 532 points
14. Big Sky: 48 recruits, 522 points
15. Mid-Eastern: 40 recruits, 520 points
16. WCC: 29 recruits, 512 points
17. MAC: 36 recruits, 508 points
18. Atlantic 10: 39 recruits, 498 points
19. Colonial Athletic Association: 31 recruits, 479 points
20. Summit League: 34 recruits, 478 points

Excellant job guys
5/19/2014 3:27 PM (edited)
Just a quick overview of the conference and it's teams after recruiting and a couple warm-up EX games.
The conference is still divided into the haves and have nots, however that line is finally starting to become less pronounced.
I would call the top 6 the teams with B level prestige and include C+ Indiana State and C Drake.
The have nots are the 6 of us with a C- and below.
A prestige in the B range can actually recruit in some cases some very nice players.... while those of us with a D type prestige are still looking for very flawed players with some potential to develop down the road so we can then win more games and thus... raise our all important prestige grade.

Here is how the numbers look for overall team ratings (minus walkons), and then the average rating of everyone's proposed starting 5.

#1. Mizzou State = B (701-Overall) 761 starters
#2. Indiana State = C+ (674-Ov)     753 starters
#3. Southern Ill.   = C-  (701- Ov)    748 starters
#4. N. Iowa          = B-  (681- Ov)     732 starters
#5. Creighton      = D+ (682- Ov)     700 starters
#6. Evansville     = D+  (658 - Ov)    705 starters
#7. W. Kent.       = B-   (645 - Ov)    690 starters
#8. Garn Webb   = D   (645 - Ov)    700 starters
#9. Ill. State         = B-  (653 - Ov)     680 starters
#10 Drake           = C   (632 - Ov)     683 starters
#11 Wich State  = D+  (618 - OV)    669 starters
#12 Bradley        = D    (622 - Ov)    591 starters

Total prestige season  #68= 42
                                     #69= 51
                                     #70= 57
 Getting better 3 seasons in a row.
3/27/2014 4:05 PM
My predictions for this season would be somewhat different from the list above.
I do think Missouri State is the #1 team in the conference this season.
I also believe Bradley will lose more games than anyone else (youth movement).
Thus my pick for #1 and #12 would be the above teams.
The middle 10 could vary.
I predict a break out season for the Salukis of SIU.
I also see a good season for Indiana State.
N. Iowa has talent and should be between 2nd and 4th.
Creighton is too high at #5. However, there is less difference from our overall average and our starters than any other team.
Creighton is still young, and very weak in the back-court, but by seasons end we might be playing closer to that 5th or 6th place level. (not sure if it will be too late to make any difference in that D+ or not).
Evansville, GW, ILL State, and Drake appear to be rebuilding but each are capable of moving up several spots on the list.
Wichita State and Bradley are in a rebuilding for the future mode and this will be a season of just improving players ratings and getting better.
3/31/2014 5:37 PM
I'm just hoping to keep my B- and maybe make the NIT.  Starting 4-0 is a good step in that direction
4/4/2014 4:34 PM
Out of the gate, things seem to be trending in the right direction.

East Standings
 
School Coach Conf.
W-L
Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Top 25
W-L
Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
Evansville jrakovan 0-0 7-1 1-1 6-0 0-0 - W3 106 268
S. Illinois kmfloyd 0-0 7-1 4-0 3-1 0-0 - W5 44 167
Creighton mizzou77 0-0 6-2 0-0 6-2 0-0 - W2 34 98
Indiana St. ktreloar99 0-0 5-3 1-2 4-1 0-2 - W1 40 31
Drake tk21775 0-0 4-4 2-0 2-4 0-2 - W1 38 22
Bradley cmd78 0-0 2-6 1-2 1-4 0-0 - L1 278 266
 
 
 
 
 
West Standings
 
School Coach Conf.
W-L
Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Top 25
W-L
Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
#19 Missouri St. palyak 0-0 7-1 7-1 0-0 0-0 - W4 23 28
N. Iowa rtoenjes 0-0 7-1 4-0 3-1 0-0 - W6 52 195
Illinois St. sinatra 0-0 5-3 0-1 5-2 0-0 - L2 96 168
Gardner-Webb shadoworkcat 0-0 4-4 3-1 1-3 0-0 - W2 250 296
W. Kentucky twencoach 0-0 3-5 1-3 2-2 0-1 - L2 189 146
Wichita St. r7gordon 0-0 3-5 2-0 1-5 0-0 - W1 190 192
5/2/2014 4:21 PM
East Standings
 
School Coach Conf.
W-L
Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Top 25
W-L
Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
#20 S. Illinois kmfloyd 15-1 25-4 13-0 11-2 1-0 7-3 L2 20 94
Indiana St. ktreloar99 11-5 22-10 10-4 10-5 0-4 6-4 L1 47 66
Evansville jrakovan 7-9 16-12 5-7 10-4 0-1 4-6 L1 138 165
Creighton mizzou77 6-10 14-14 4-5 9-8 0-1 4-6 L1 91 86
Bradley cmd78 6-10 10-18 4-8 5-9 0-1 3-7 L1 127 55
Drake tk21775 5-11 10-18 4-8 5-9 0-3 5-5 L1 137 65
 
 
 
 
 
West Standings
 
School Coach Conf.
W-L
Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Top 25
W-L
Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
N. Iowa rtoenjes 13-3 24-6 12-1 10-3 1-1 6-4 L1 40 103
Missouri St. palyak 10-6 21-9 15-3 3-5 2-0 7-3 L1 38 28
Illinois St. sinatra 7-9 12-15 3-7 9-7 0-0 4-6 L1 113 98
W. Kentucky twencoach 7-9 11-16 7-6 4-9 1-2 4-6 L2 195 142
Wichita St. r7gordon 6-10 10-17 5-5 5-11 0-2 3-7 L2 171 121
Gardner-Webb shadoworkcat 3-13 8-19 6-8 2-10 0-0 3-7 L3 230 115
5/5/2014 9:05 AM
21. S. Illinois C+ kmfloyd MVC 25-4 .5397 97 .6256
39. Missouri St. B palyak MVC 21-9 .5852 27 .6046
40. N. Iowa B rtoenjes MVC 24-6 .5334 103 .6043
48. Indiana St. C+ ktreloar99 MVC 22-10 .5583 68 .5928
91. Creighton C- mizzou77 MVC 14-14 .5454 87 .5479
114. Illinois St. B- sinatra MVC 12-15 .5397 98 .5271
127. Bradley D+ cmd78 MVC 10-18 .5670 55 .5179
137. Drake C tk21775 MVC 10-18 .5612 65 .5137
138. Evansville C- jrakovan MVC 16-12 .4917 165 .5132
171. Wichita St. D+ r7gordon MVC 10-17 .5175 120 .4899
196. W. Kentucky C+ twencoach MVC 11-16 .5046 143 .4783
230. Gardner-Webb D shadoworkcat MVC 8-19 .5196 115 .4547
5/5/2014 9:09 AM
End Season #70
  School Players A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
1. S. Illinois 12 67 58 55 68 45 59 53 53 47 74 77 77 C+ 733
2. Missouri St. 12 77 53 48 80 45 59 49 50 47 77 83 65 C+ 731
3. Indiana St. 12 72 66 42 80 38 46 59 54 54 61 75 61 C 708
4. Illinois St. 12 61 51 55 66 47 66 59 51 51 61 76 58 C 702
5. Evansville 12 61 56 52 64 46 60 53 51 54 67 80 55 C+ 697
6. N. Iowa 12 62 52 43 65 46 49 55 58 59 71 77 58 C+ 696
7. Bradley 12 66 55 41 71 30 50 52 52 48 65 78 63 C+ 671
8. Creighton 12 62 49 54 73 52 49 38 41 47 64 77 62 C+ 670
9. W. Kentucky 12 73 46 47 80 38 53 49 46 42 57 74 63 C+ 667
10. Wichita St. 12 62 53 40 61 34 51 52 52 56 60 77 66 C+ 666
11. Gardner-Webb 12 52 53 43 51 35 52 46 53 45 76 78 67 C+ 650
12. Drake 12 60 44 46 67 37 48 45 44 40 58 76 61 C 626
5/15/2014 9:58 AM (edited)
Start of #71
  School Players A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
1. S. Illinois 12 66 59 51 69 44 58 55 55 47 73 75 75 C+ 726
2. Missouri St. 12 72 54 41 77 36 49 49 55 52 70 79 57 C+ 692
3. Illinois St. 12 60 51 51 64 46 59 57 51 50 60 73 56 C 678
4. N. Iowa 12 62 53 41 62 40 46 48 49 60 66 75 60 C+ 663
5. Indiana St. 12 67 58 45 70 38 50 49 45 50 56 72 60 C 658
6. Gardner-Webb 12 59 54 42 55 34 50 49 53 49 74 77 61 C+ 657
7. Evansville 12 60 53 47 59 40 51 49 46 55 66 73 52 C 651
8. Wichita St. 12 62 47 44 61 40 49 47 49 53 59 71 61 C+ 643
9. Bradley 12 66 49 44 69 32 44 44 49 42 66 74 57 C 638
10. Creighton 10 66 45 48 70 48 44 40 40 41 48 72 58 C+ 676
11. W. Kentucky 11 70 47 41 70 32 43 53 44 42 55 71 51 C+ 632
12. Drake 11 61 52 31 63 29 35 59 51 46 56 75 55 C+ 629
Walkons removed
5/15/2014 10:11 AM (edited)
#71 Freshman class
  Name Year Pos School A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
1. Brian Delatorre Fr. PF Illinois St. 41 33 62 40 61 83 54 22 55 72 64 74 C- 661
2. Tony West Fr. C Missouri St. 66 36 64 53 59 88 40 45 55 25 70 43 D+ 644
3. Gavin Hartman Fr. C Evansville 34 28 86 50 84 92 15 12 31 65 68 56 C 621
4. David Johnston Fr. PF Creighton 76 34 77 72 67 65 11 21 35 20 69 72 D+ 619
5. Jason Carlile Fr. PF Bradley 85 35 55 63 30 67 38 34 26 72 62 47 C- 614
6. Duane McInroy Fr. SG N. Iowa 49 52 38 46 23 51 64 56 67 40 77 48 C 611
7. Russell Root Fr. PG Missouri St. 58 73 15 57 15 21 53 68 56 66 68 60 D 610
8. Dennis Frost Fr. SF W. Kentucky 78 48 30 79 10 70 57 51 36 29 76 36 D+ 600
9. Joseph McKeehan Fr. SG N. Iowa 56 67 15 51 7 28 54 46 74 55 80 66 C+ 599
10. William Miles Fr. PG Creighton 79 74 1 71 1 10 68 70 69 25 66 62 C 596
11. Joseph Finck Fr. PG Drake 33 71 3 45 13 20 73 66 50 79 87 56 C 596
12. James Young Fr. PG N. Iowa 59 67 1 61 1 1 62 68 61 69 79 61 B- 590
13. Robert Hardin Fr. SF Evansville 85 46 47 67 28 40 16 34 47 55 56 67 C- 588
14. Byron Lafollette Fr. SF Indiana St. 80 37 44 77 39 73 22 19 13 49 78 56 C- 587
15. Doyle Williams Fr. PG W. Kentucky 65 62 24 56 5 40 77 59 67 43 67 22 D+ 587
16. William Coulston Fr. SF N. Iowa 54 58 37 62 29 42 39 41 69 53 64 35 C- 583
17. Charles Burgess Fr. C N. Iowa 52 19 66 44 74 74 7 25 25 58 64 74 B- 582
18. George Randolph Fr. PG Drake 49 70 15 28 8 22 82 59 51 56 86 55 B 581
19. David Thomas Fr. SG Evansville 51 65 12 40 1 27 73 60 65 87 66 31 C 578
20. Michael Pavon Fr. SF N. Iowa 55 49 34 40 28 32 53 23 43 88 74 58 D+ 577
21. Gayle Self Fr. PG Evansville 54 68 10 42 8 15 63 53 75 71 80 35 C 574
22. Brandon Sepulveda Fr. PF Illinois St. 41 27 63 60 57 65 36 26 28 54 68 47 D- 572
23. Richard Chambliss Fr. C Creighton 65 32 62 67 54 57 30 22 21 51 57 53 C- 571
24. Charles Armstead Fr. PG Missouri St. 58 69 1 59 1 6 54 77 63 76 71 35 C- 570
25. Thomas Jones Fr. SF Gardner-Webb 70 40 31 58 19 52 40 22 45 85 74 31 D 567
3 Redshirts from last season
*Note, top recruit for this season (Tony West) has taken a RS. Well done Palyak x2
6 players at 600 or above, same as last season.
5/15/2014 10:15 AM
1. ACC: 39 recruits, 797 points
2. Big East: 41 recruits, 731 points
3. SEC: 32 recruits, 729 points
4. Big 12: 28 recruits, 717 points
5. Big Ten: 37 recruits, 717 points
6. PAC 10: 31 recruits, 672 points
7. Missouri Valley: 34 recruits, 648 points
8. WCC: 47 recruits, 596 points
9. Atlantic 10: 45 recruits, 566 points
10. Ivy League: 32 recruits, 563 points
11. Southern: 42 recruits, 561 points
12. MAC: 44 recruits, 556 points
13. Horizon: 52 recruits, 531 points
14. Big Sky: 41 recruits, 527 points
15. Conference USA: 35 recruits, 515 points
16. Metro-Atlantic: 39 recruits, 485 points
17. Northeast: 39 recruits, 482 points
18. Mid-Eastern: 46 recruits, 451 points
19. Colonial Athletic Association: 28 recruits, 451 points
20. Sun Belt: 35 recruits, 435 points
21. Big West: 28 recruits, 430 points
22. Summit League: 23 recruits, 409 points
Tiny bit weaker than last season but we had 2 sims recruiting 8 players
5/15/2014 10:44 AM (edited)
Quick overview of the conference before we start.
East Division
#1. SIU looks very good again this season after a break-out last year. They return nearly everyone from a team that ran away with the East.
#2. Indiana State is now sim coached, however, ktreloar was a good coach and left a good core behind. They could still finish second in the east as a sim. The sim did a poor job of recruiting with one average guy and 2 guys a new coach may cut. Hopefully we can get a coach in place there before they fade too much.
#3. Probably more of the same from Evansville... they look pretty good and jrakovan did a nice job bringing in some good recruits to add to his group.
#4. maybe Creighton hangs on to 4th. We are getting better by inches not yards. Creighton had a good recruiting class but only returns 6 guys and the two reclamation projects below us last season are well coached and may pass us.
#5. Bradley had a really good start to last season after a complete makeover. They "only" won 6 games in the Valley. But after a complete overhaul by CMD, 6 wins was actually really good. I would "expect" them to win more this season, probably passing one or two of those above them.
#6. Drake, I don't see alot of difference between #6 and #2. Depending on how fast Indiana State falls, and the other 4 rise... SIU "should" win the East... and Creighton might finish 6th... the middle will be pretty brutal as the East division continues to improve.

I scouted something like 30 states since I had alot of money and no clout to spend it with... so I could see alot of the potential of our recruits.

In grading each team after recruiting ends for my own reasons, I came up with (2) B's and (3) B-'s, with the sim a C- at Ind. State.
In looking it over the East may have done as well if not a tiny bit better this season than the West, possibly for the first time.
This would by IMHO of course and that may or may not mean anything. LOL
5/15/2014 11:06 AM
The West
#1. Mizzou State. I would think the West is still Palyak's to lose. He does a nice job recruiting, he doesn't over-reach and get busted by the big guys... keeps his classes balanced pretty well so he can just keep reloading. Mizz State has a B prestige and I think I have graded him a B+ to B- each season I have been here. He seems to know his limits, but as the conference gets stronger and we gain money and prestige, I believe he will still be "setting the pace" if not just off of it in the West.
#2. Northern Iowa. The sim actually did a really nice job of recruiting (for the sim). I could only see the potential on 2 of the recruits... but those two are keepers.
#3 and #4.. Ill State probably climbs back to 2 or 3 again. Sinatra didn't lose alot from last season, but neither did most of the other teams in the west. Western Kentucky had 4 openings while the rest return 10. However they may have a better core of players returning.
#5. Probably the Shockers. Not that they're bad, the West is just pretty tough and has alot of well coached teams who will beat up on each other.
#6. as mentioned above, ShadowKat at Garner-Webb only lost 2 guys. He brought in a couple pretty decent guys in recruiting and looks to be headed north in the standings.

Almost every team brought in at least one guy I really liked... if not 2-3. I think we are doing well overall as a conference. Filling the two open teams before they fade too far will be a big key in moving forward as a group.
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