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12/10/2013 11:31 AM
Almost time to hit the recruiting trail again.  Need to turn up some gems.
12/17/2013 9:27 AM (edited)
  School Players A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
1. W. Kentucky 12 77 46 52 77 42 58 43 43 41 52 72 65 C 670
2. N. Iowa 12 61 55 47 61 41 57 57 49 54 58 72 58 B- 670
3. Illinois St. 12 63 48 54 61 39 62 49 44 55 56 76 64 C 669
4. Missouri St. 11 66 48 45 73 39 54 44 44 44 70 74 54 C+ 678
5. Evansville 12 61 55 39 58 33 52 51 51 53 58 75 62 C 648
6. S. Illinois 12 59 50 47 55 38 53 42 45 43 68 74 73 C 646
7. Gardner-Webb 12 55 52 37 54 31 49 45 48 47 68 72 64 C 624
8. Wichita St. 10 55 54 38 61 30 46 43 44 45 66 73 66 C+ 656
9. Creighton 10 48 50 35 58 31 44 48 51 54 63 75 58 C 659
10. Drake 12 61 46 44 62 39 45 42 46 37 56 70 58 C 607
11. Indiana St. 11 62 54 35 63 30 33 45 51 50 58 66 58 C 627
12. Bradley 12 56 52 41 56 34 45 41 43 47 62 74 53 C+ 604
Walk-ons removed
2/7/2014 5:59 PM (edited)
  Name Year Pos School A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
1. Stephen McBride Fr. PF Gardner-Webb 66 25 59 64 59 75 17 27 14 99 67 87 C 659
2. Carl Terry Fr. SF S. Illinois 62 41 51 67 42 69 26 48 42 56 62 63 C 629
3. Michael Freeman Fr. SG S. Illinois 55 61 31 37 12 40 68 46 40 76 62 97 C+ 625
4. Michael Jones Fr. C Creighton 55 29 65 65 62 68 34 34 50 24 66 68 D+ 620
5. Louis Tyler Fr. PF S. Illinois 45 36 63 43 80 66 19 25 20 92 64 65 D 618
6. Francisco Morales Fr. PG S. Illinois 66 63 21 41 12 4 61 51 57 71 85 86 C- 618
7. Steve Murry Fr. C Illinois St. 53 23 86 67 82 83 19 10 16 51 72 47 D- 609
8. John Parks Fr. SF Gardner-Webb 50 52 40 38 28 64 67 40 31 73 67 51 D 601
9. Frank Small Fr. PF Illinois St. 83 41 54 55 39 70 38 19 33 41 72 54 D- 599
10. Mark Arrowood Fr. SG Missouri St. 66 67 1 65 1 1 74 57 49 77 77 64 C 599
11. Jeffrey Whitney Fr. SG Gardner-Webb 16 54 19 29 12 27 69 62 63 73 89 83 C- 596
12. William Herrmann Fr. PG Missouri St. 65 70 10 72 12 1 87 54 72 54 74 21 D 592
13. Michael Samuels Fr. SF W. Kentucky 72 52 42 59 23 34 58 47 38 21 79 65 C 590
14. James Rawls Fr. PF N. Iowa 55 26 58 51 54 58 42 20 28 66 57 74 C+ 589
15. Hugh Mann Fr. PF Evansville 58 40 55 66 56 81 15 40 12 31 65 66 D 585
16. Drew Dougherty Fr. PG N. Iowa 47 73 1 62 1 1 87 58 66 66 61 55 B+ 578
17. Fernando Padilla Fr. SG Creighton 59 69 23 67 14 33 52 57 51 41 68 42 A- 576
18. Dave Adams Fr. PG Wichita St. 37 56 1 39 1 25 75 65 61 71 67 76 C 574
19. Calvin Tartaglia Fr. PF W. Kentucky 74 23 48 74 49 60 24 22 12 48 68 71 C- 573
20. Earl Valentine Fr. SG Illinois St. 47 57 31 38 25 63 77 46 43 42 63 40 C- 572
21. Marc Pruett Fr. SG W. Kentucky 75 60 22 66 12 15 58 30 58 52 72 48 B 568
22. Kevin Rogers Fr. SG Illinois St. 77 52 30 73 10 25 36 53 64 35 76 36 C+ 567
23. Cecil Brose Fr. PF Evansville 62 31 47 60 22 72 50 24 52 70 53 20 C 563
24. Edwin Becker Fr. PG Indiana St. 76 58 3 57 1 14 74 49 37 78 55 59 C 561
25. Jeffery Orner Fr. PF Indiana St. 49 39 67 42 81 51 19 36 58 28 50 41 C 561

Red shirts from the list will be removed when I get a minute.
There are no Top-125 recruits in this class... ZERO!
12/16/2013 9:42 AM
1. ACC: 42 recruits, 869 points
2. Big 12: 46 recruits, 825 points
3. PAC 10: 39 recruits, 763 points
4. SEC: 40 recruits, 711 points
5. Big Ten: 38 recruits, 691 points
6. Big East: 38 recruits, 687 points
7. Summit League: 67 recruits, 667 points
8. Missouri Valley: 34 recruits, 623 points
9. Ivy League: 42 recruits, 590 points
10. Mountain West: 38 recruits, 572 points
11. Atlantic 10: 41 recruits, 552 points
12. WCC: 27 recruits, 520 points
13. Big South: 38 recruits, 496 points
14. Big West: 40 recruits, 491 points
15. MAC: 35 recruits, 486 points
16. Conference USA: 30 recruits, 444 points
17. Southern: 38 recruits, 438 points
18. Southland: 32 recruits, 435 points
19. Patriot League: 34 recruits, 434 points
20. Mid-Eastern: 32 recruits, 424 points
12/16/2013 12:04 PM
ACC - 5 sim
B10  - 1 sim
B12  - 4 sim
BE    - 3 sim
P10  - 1 sim
SEC - 1 sim
MVC - 1 sim      42
Ivy     - 2 sim      40
SL    - 0 sim      30
The Ivy, Valley, and Summit are all 3 fairly full.
Using a 1 pt for D-.... 2 for D, 3 for D+ etc, scale.
Conference prestige = Mo Valley = 42,  Ivy = 40, Summit = 30.
12/16/2013 12:11 PM (edited)

Actual Conference Prestige

Rank Conference Prestige Record Strength of
Schedule
RPI
1. ACC A+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
2. Big 12 A- 0-0 .0000 .0000
3. Big Ten B+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
4. PAC 10 B 0-0 .0000 .0000
4. Big East B- 0-0 .0000 .0000
6. SEC B- 0-0 .0000 .0000
7. WCC C 0-0 .0000 .0000
8. Missouri Valley C- 0-0 .0000 .0000
8. Mountain West C- 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Atlantic 10 D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Big Sky D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Big South D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Conference USA D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Horizon D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Ivy League D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Metro-Atlantic D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Mid-Eastern D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Ohio Valley D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Southern D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
10. Summit League D+

1/22/2014 2:24 PM (edited)
School Coach Conf.
W-L
Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Top 25
W-L
Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
Indiana St. ktreloar99 9-7 15-12 9-5 6-6 0-4 5-5 L1 117 101
Evansville jrakovan 8-8 8-19 3-10 5-8 0-8 5-5 L4 154 51
Drake tk21775 7-9 13-15 6-6 6-8 0-0 5-5 L1 188 185
Bradley Sim AI 6-10 14-13 9-5 5-7 0-0 2-8 L4 190 216
S. Illinois kmfloyd 5-11 7-20 3-9 4-10 0-3 2-8 L4 199 70
Creighton mizzou77 4-12 7-20 1-12 6-7 0-1 3-7 L1 225 105
 
 
 
 
 
West Standings
 
School Coach Conf.
W-L
Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Top 25
W-L
Last 10 STRK RPI SOS
W. Kentucky twencoach 14-2 22-8 12-2 8-4 3-2 8-2 L2 29 52
N. Iowa rtoenjes 12-4 21-8 11-1 9-5 0-1 6-4 L2 35 68
Missouri St. palyak 11-5 22-8 16-2 4-4 0-2 5-5 L2 47 66
Illinois St. sinatra 10-6 19-12 8-5 7-6 2-4 8-2 L1 66 62
Wichita St. tiger23 7-9 16-12 10-3 5-8 1-3 6-4 L1 99 87
Gardner-Webb shadoworkcat 3-13 7-20 3-10 4-9 0-1 1-9 L5 212 80

Ill State won the CT to qualify for the NT.
W.Kentucky, Mo State, and N. Iowa got at large bids.
All four lost 1st round
NT total = $80,000
1/22/2014 2:37 PM (edited)
Final Team Ratings, (with W/O's)
  School Players A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
1. Illinois St. 12 65 50 58 66 42 68 53 47 56 59 79 66 C 710
2. N. Iowa 12 64 57 48 63 44 59 62 53 57 61 77 60 B- 706
3. W. Kentucky 12 78 48 53 80 44 60 44 45 41 56 76 67 C 693
4. Missouri St. 12 69 49 47 77 42 56 47 48 45 74 79 57 C+ 691
5. S. Illinois 12 62 54 51 60 40 55 46 49 45 72 77 77 C 687
6. Evansville 12 62 57 42 60 35 55 54 54 55 61 78 64 C+ 677
7. Gardner-Webb 12 58 56 40 57 35 54 48 53 50 71 76 68 C+ 665
8. Indiana St. 12 64 59 37 70 33 38 51 55 53 62 70 62 C 653
9. Wichita St. 12 56 56 40 63 31 47 45 47 48 69 76 69 B- 647
10. Creighton 12 50 54 37 62 33 46 49 52 56 66 79 62 C+ 646
11. Drake 12 63 48 47 67 42 47 45 48 42 60 75 61 C 644
12. Bradley 12 56 54 43 59 36 48 42 43 50 65 77 55 C+ 627

700 overall rating is really a minimum target for a NT team.
735-750 is more like a typical team with a chance to play a couple rounds.
750-800 today is more of a top-20 type.
As we all know, overall team ratings can be misleading, however, if your team rating is 800+, your pretty solid.
If it's in the 600's... you still need to keep climbing the prestige ladder and recruiting more talented players.

A few years ago the overall numbers for this were higher..... but as HD keeps making fewer and fewer high rated players, the overall team ratings have come down some. When I was at Creighton 2-3 years ago, there were probably 5-6 of us who had teams between 700-750 to BEGIN the season every year. Today, we will be lucky to see those type numbers someday to end the season... telling me the overall pool of players is about 30-50 points below then.
2/3/2014 5:19 PM
1. ACC A+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
2 Big 12 A- 0-0 .0000 .0000
3. Big Ten B+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
4t Big East B 0-0 .0000 .0000
4t PAC 10 B 0-0 .0000 .0000
6 SEC B- 0-0 .0000 .0000
7 WCC C 0-0 .0000 .0000
8t Atlantic 10 C- 0-0 .0000 .0000
  Ivy League C- 0-0 .0000 .0000
  Missouri Valley C- 0-0 .0000 .0000
  Mountain West C- 0-0 .0000 .0000
12t Big Sky D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
  Big South D+ 0-0 .0000 .0000
  Conference USA D+
  15t  Summit League   D
2/3/2014 5:38 PM (edited)
  Bradley D cmd78 MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  Creighton D+ mizzou77 MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  Drake D tk21775 MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  Evansville D+ jrakovan MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  Gardner-Webb D shadoworkcat MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  Illinois St. C+ sinatra MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  Indiana St. B- ktreloar99 MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  Missouri St. B- palyak MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  N. Iowa C+ rtoenjes MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  S. Illinois D+ kmfloyd MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  W. Kentucky B- twencoach MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
  Wichita St. D+ tiger23 MVC 0-0 .0000 0 .0000
Prestige total = Valley 51 (was 42 last season), Ivy 46  (was 40), Summit 28  (was 30)
The 9 places we moved up is a nice goal for the next few seasons to try to continue.
The Ivy got better as well, the Summit dropped 2 points, however that is very normal for the situation they are in.
When we all moved to the CUSA in Rupp, we cut alot of players, added freshmen and actually lost more games for a season or two than when the sim was there.
After 2-3 seasons however, our prestige began to climb and with it the talent we were able to recruit, which snowballed the effect.
I really doubt that the Summit will be able to do what we did with CUSA in Rupp, I think the downward prestige pull will just be too great, however it will be a fun experiment to watch. I really expect the Ivy and Mo Valley (with a somewhat lesser pedigree of coaches), will be able to hold pace, and possibly even stay ahead of the Summit.
We shall see, should be fun to watch.
If the Valley, Summit, and Ivy can keep full conferences for 10-15 seasons...
Allen, once most dominated D1 world of all HD could become the most level playing field in D1.
2/4/2014 9:19 AM (edited)
Begining season #69
1. Illinois St. 12 62 52 53 66 38 62 58 50 54 60 77 62 C 693
2. Missouri St. 12 71 52 41 76 39 55 48 50 49 76 74 57 C 688
3. S. Illinois 12 63 55 49 62 39 51 47 49 40 74 74 76 C 679
4. N. Iowa 12 63 52 49 62 48 60 52 47 49 62 69 59 C+ 672
5. Gardner-Webb 12 59 57 40 60 31 52 47 52 50 72 76 71 C+ 669
6. Evansville 12 59 58 42 60 35 53 53 53 56 61 75 64 C+ 669
7. Drake 12 64 48 48 68 43 47 46 48 43 60 74 62 C+ 651
8. Indiana St. 12 68 60 36 68 32 40 51 53 55 57 68 57 C 646
9. Creighton 11 59 46 47 67 47 42 38 42 46 62 71 60 C 643
10. W. Kentucky 12 72 47 38 71 29 51 49 46 41 52 71 54 C 622
11. Bradley 12 60 49 42 60 31 53 46 41 44 58 71 53 C 607
12. Wichita St. 12 54 49 40 47 31 47 44 44 51 53 68 59 C 588
Creighton had the only W/O due to an Ineligible going Juco.
2/5/2014 3:31 PM
This is what the top rated players look like to begin the season
1. George Paulson Sr. SF N. Iowa 65 72 62 61 42 97 84 55 45 77 81 98 B- 839
2. Randal Hendley Sr. SF Illinois St. 74 72 45 77 33 70 79 48 81 74 86 93 B- 832
3. Archie Callahan Jr. PF Missouri St. 87 44 79 82 84 100 39 26 39 72 77 88 C+ 817
4. Michael Koerwitz Sr. SG Illinois St. 73 69 39 59 26 53 99 90 84 63 85 68 B+ 808
5. Don Christenson Sr. PG Indiana St. 82 93 1 77 4 29 95 92 79 77 89 81 B+ 799
6. Wes Pace Sr. SF Evansville 64 83 56 59 38 21 66 62 80 81 87 99 C 796
7. Allen Clark Sr. PF Illinois St. 76 54 74 95 43 84 30 37 52 76 76 89 C- 786
8. Larry Michel Sr. SF Bradley 81 74 40 99 39 59 57 66 63 78 81 48 C 785
9. John Saavedra Sr. PG Drake 74 74 38 88 4 16 55 99 75 81 93 86 B- 783
10. Carey Morello Sr. PG Illinois St. 51 79 33 71 18 42 93 87 74 87 88 53 C+ 776
11. Alton Wooten Sr. SG Drake 71 77 32 67 40 14 88 57 74 74 80 99 B 773
12. Chris Choquette Sr. SF S. Illinois 79 49 38 93 32 67 73 70 33 63 85 86 C 768
13. Murray Reynolds Sr. PG Missouri St. 80 70 21 87 20 47 61 86 78 78 88 46 B- 762
14. Marlon Duszynski Sr. SG Evansville 73 52 35 71 35 46 65 54 71 75 83 99 B- 759
15. John Lott Sr. SG Wichita St. 35 81 19 58 28 46 86 84 84 78 77 81 B- 757
16. Neil Ozuna Sr. PG Gardner-Webb 86 91 12 98 24 7 68 73 63 73 75 84 B- 754
17. Geoffrey Wickstrom Sr. SG Creighton 55 86 16 81 17 27 66 73 91 79 88 64 C 743
18. Robert Scalia Jr. SF Indiana St. 74 74 45 73 46 49 70 64 66 75 67 39 C+ 742
19. Paul Lefebvre Sr. PF Bradley 63 40 82 67 47 99 53 40 37 81 68 64 C 741
20. Stephen McBride So. PF Gardner-Webb 66 30 70 70 73 79 17 38 30 99 68 99 C 739
21. Joseph Pratt Jr. C Drake 70 34 75 91 57 76 31 28 15 79 83 99 C 738
22. Louis Tyler So. PF S. Illinois 51 39 86 62 95 67 20 37 36 93 69 83 D+ 738
23. James Barcus Sr. PG Missouri St. 60 73 4 89 7 33 78 88 72 92 80 60 C+ 736
24. Larry Knapp Jr. C N. Iowa 65 38 87 62 79 96 27 36 44 84 64 54 B- 736
25. John Rufus Sr. PF N. Iowa 65 49 89 64 99 98 22 16 31 58 79 64 C+ 734
We shall see if over time we recruit better.
2/5/2014 10:11 PM
4 of the top ten in the conference...I better not blow this!
2/10/2014 5:42 PM (edited)
Incoming Freshman
1. Kelly Thompson Fr. PF Missouri St. 90 26 68 83 56 92 22 33 42 75 58 73 D- 718
2. Charles Hunter Fr. PF Indiana St. 70 33 63 66 65 86 48 26 49 68 57 36 D+ 667
3. Donald Trivette Fr. SG W. Kentucky 77 55 28 65 15 45 62 62 55 64 71 62 C 661
RS James Rawls Fr. PF N. Iowa 64 28 60 60 61 60 52 25 37 66 66 79 C+ 658
5. Jeffrey Ray Fr. SF Illinois St. 43 35 66 52 61 56 66 43 49 45 78 60 C+ 654
6. Scott Herman Fr. PF N. Iowa 56 51 42 38 33 79 34 45 43 86 65 57 D+ 629
7. Steven Nguyen Fr. SG Indiana St. 76 65 21 77 10 50 64 46 60 37 60 61 C- 627
8. Thomas Tubergen Fr. SG Missouri St. 59 60 19 60 13 44 58 51 52 92 62 56 D+ 626
RS Scott Putnam Fr. SG Indiana St. 53 64 16 66 16 39 51 59 52 85 72 46 C 619
10. James Matsumoto Fr. SG S. Illinois 54 62 20 52 14 13 79 56 37 88 70 72 C+ 617
11. Christopher Grosz Fr. SG Illinois St. 63 49 34 57 34 28 55 61 32 86 73 40 C 612
12. Paul Mucha Fr. PF S. Illinois 70 30 64 58 61 79 22 42 14 65 64 42 F 611
RS Calvin Tartaglia Fr. PF W. Kentucky 76 21 56 79 52 62 33 21 15 48 65 72 C 600
14. Robert Todd Fr. C Creighton 67 30 74 74 80 58 10 27 43 35 59 38 C- 595
15. James Jetton Fr. SG Bradley 69 47 28 65 13 16 67 42 55 65 75 53 C- 595
16. Herman Stewart Fr. C Creighton 68 11 84 71 90 28 13 12 24 78 58 52 C- 589
17. Bradley Bechard Fr. SG W. Kentucky 49 73 12 42 1 35 80 72 67 36 77 42 C+ 586
18. Jerome Hunt Fr. C Gardner-Webb 43 27 64 43 40 73 36 16 43 88 75 37 C- 585
19. Irvin Petty Fr. PG Bradley 69 71 17 48 10 48 64 50 50 40 74 41 C 582
20. Forrest Kidd Fr. C W. Kentucky 71 14 63 71 67 64 18 24 20 44 64 55 C- 575
21. Edwin Barney Fr. SG W. Kentucky 66 48 12 75 1 9 83 52 44 60 78 47 C- 575
22. Tibor Zieglen Fr. C Bradley 56 26 66 47 46 75 7 30 21 63 78 55 D 570
23. Timothy Arakaki Fr. C Wichita St. 56 13 80 38 64 69 17 13 44 40 61 73 D+ 568
24. Raymond Piche Fr. SG Wichita St. 71 58 20 49 11 11 60 55 57 59 67 47 C- 565
25. Edward Miller Fr. PF Wichita St. 71 41 47 68 46 72 10 38 33 36 64 37 C 563
3 Red Shirts marked (from last season)
Since 25 x 5 is 125, I'm going to call anything listed as 25 or lower at their position a top 125 recruit.

Top 125
Ray - Ill. State  #17SF
Hunter - Ind. State  #20PF
Thompson - Mo State  #21PF
We landed 3 Top-125 recruits
This is one of the main lists I hope to see grow longer in a few seasons.
2/9/2014 11:29 PM
Grosz is also a redshirt if you update the list
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