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8/19/2014 6:32 PM
You never answered the question.

If he collected 3500 hits in San Diego, is he "just another guy"?
8/19/2014 6:38 PM
He would not be as held in such high regard, no one would care if he didn't have any mvps and he sure wouldn't have any GG to his name. So yes he would be just another guy with a lot of hits.
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8/19/2014 6:47 PM
Posted by utz26 on 8/19/2014 6:38:00 PM (view original):
He would not be as held in such high regard, no one would care if he didn't have any mvps and he sure wouldn't have any GG to his name. So yes he would be just another guy with a lot of hits.
Is that what you said when you first posted in here?

Did Jeter somehow become better, in your eyes, over the last couple of days?
8/19/2014 6:48 PM
Posted by utz26 on 8/16/2014 8:55:00 PM (view original):
If Jeter was in another city he would be just another guy.. One of the most overrated players of this generation.....
In case you forgot.   Standing by this now?
8/20/2014 1:08 AM
Yes. OVERRATED! If he played in Miami or Tampa or Milwaukee, no one would care about him.
8/20/2014 7:04 AM (edited)
Just like nobody cared about that Tommy Gwynn guy, who spent his entire career anonymously in San Diego?
8/20/2014 7:09 AM

Yep, just like him.

8/20/2014 8:49 AM

This is the problem with Jeter(and perhaps why the haters hate so hard):   There's no legit comparison.

He's spent his entire career with the same team and had outstanding, team and individual, success.   But he's never been the best, or most important(IMO), player on the team.   Ripken, Chipper Jones, Gwynn are somewhat from his era and all of them were the best, and most important, player on their team for most of their careers.   That said, had he played in Tampa or Miami or Milwaukee, he'd have almost certainly fell into the Ripken, Gwynn, Jones category.   Perhaps a little less famous and a lot less hated.

8/20/2014 8:52 AM
And the reason he shouldn't be compared to Beltre is simple.  Jeter has had very consistent career.    Rookie thru retirement, he's been pretty much the same player.    Beltre has been mediocre, average and outstanding.    You didn't know which guy you were getting.   In addition, Beltre has be superb since going to Texas.   If you're going to penalize Todd Helton and Larry Walker for playing in Coors, you should at least consider doing it to players from Texas.
8/20/2014 9:03 AM
Well, of course you can compare them but it's a fool's errand.   

But, naturally, there are plenty of fools to be found.
8/20/2014 9:21 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/20/2014 8:52:00 AM (view original):
And the reason he shouldn't be compared to Beltre is simple.  Jeter has had very consistent career.    Rookie thru retirement, he's been pretty much the same player.    Beltre has been mediocre, average and outstanding.    You didn't know which guy you were getting.   In addition, Beltre has be superb since going to Texas.   If you're going to penalize Todd Helton and Larry Walker for playing in Coors, you should at least consider doing it to players from Texas.
But Beltre has been so outstanding in his outstanding years that he is slightly better overall than Jeter. It's close and Jrter deserves to be in the Hall, but Beltre has been slightly better.
8/20/2014 9:22 AM
Posted by cobra on 8/19/2014 4:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/19/2014 4:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 8/19/2014 4:25:00 PM (view original):
Yet Jeter is a no-brainer, likely first ballot HOF selection.

Beltre requires a discussion.

Weird, huh?  Why is that?
Because perception and reality aren't always the same.
Wait...

Isn't your statement what you called "circular reasoning" in a disparaging manner a week ago?
I don't think so. Maybe explain what you mean.
8/20/2014 9:35 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/20/2014 9:03:00 AM (view original):
Well, of course you can compare them but it's a fool's errand.   

But, naturally, there are plenty of fools to be found.
just walked past the mirror, did you?
8/20/2014 9:37 AM
My obsessed stalker is back. 

I'll ask again, have you contributed anything to these forums in the last month that didn't directly involve me?
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