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12/1/2010 5:50 PM
Can I get an opinion on what folks think this scholarship message from an Italian PF means: "Family and I very happy to play basket in USA with you coach. Ok me sign now?" Coz I got that message at 11 PM last night. At 5 pm today I got the too late, signed with another team message. I get that the other coach must have put in more effort, I don't get how. I had 19k into the kid (an international) with a 2 step prestige advantage. I was clearly leading, and I get no other message until the signing.  Is this a case of boosters? What am I missing? The other school only had 3 open scholarships going into recruiting...

I had plenty of cash in reserve, which I will now use to go poach some poor lower level kid now I guess...

Guess I mishandled recruiting this somehow, thought I was on top of it...
12/1/2010 5:56 PM
If he had three open slots then he had over $50K to spend.  If he dumped all of it in there in the first couple of cycles, that would swamp a $19K investment, even with the prestige difference.

He might also have promised a start and minutes - you can either sitemail him to find out or watch next season to see if the player gets an undeserved starting role.
12/1/2010 6:09 PM
davis, no disrespect intended, but you aren't reading my post carefully.  I get that he could have had $50k, but my last scholarship message from him indicated (to me at least) that I was in front. After that, I put another HV in for insurance, and figured I'd wait it out and the kid would sign. He did, just not with me.  I had minutes promised as well, but no start.
12/1/2010 6:11 PM
I'm no expert but I don't see why the other coach couldn't have swooped in with tons of money and just gotten him. Maybe the other coach got his other 2 slots filled with minimal effort and had 40k left and decided he really wanted this kid. If he came in and piled 40k onto this kid, offered him a start and minutes, gave him a million CV's, is it really so outlandish to assume he may have landed him on the spot even with your prestige advantage? I assume there's a point where a recruit is hit with so much effort that he basically just says "Ok, I'm signing" within a very short time period.
12/1/2010 8:17 PM
I don't think $19K is really that much to spend on a decent international recruit, given the costs of everything.  I agree with Prez, if the other coach dumped a ton of money into the player in one cycle then you wouldn't necessarily have spent enough at $19K to get a cycle or two worth of grace to try to match the other guy's effort.

I've found that if you have a ton of money in a recruit, then even if another team pours in a ton of dough in one cycle you'll usually get an appropriate message from the recruit, but then have a couple of cycles to respond.  But $19K with B- prestige isn't enough to purchase that kind of "courtesy" from an international recruit.

(Oh, and my apologies for missing the point the first time around.)
12/1/2010 8:42 PM
I still think this is pretty comical.
12/1/2010 9:07 PM
Wait, but I thought....

So its recruiting time. I'm in a "battle" over an international player with a school that I have a 2 step prestige advantage over.  Signings have begun, and the other coach continues to put in effort, although I am still in the lead.  Thing is, I had 6 open scholarships to his 3 up front. Every time he gains even a little, I just throw another HV on the recruit and next time I get the equivalent of the "wish i could sign now" message, although in somewhat racially offensive pidgin.

Is there anything that I could say on the CC like, hey coach X, you know that I had twice as many open slots, or something like that, just to remind him what he should realize - he can't win? Or should I just say nothing and let him dribble away his last dimes?

Nothing against you dac, just a funny situation.
12/1/2010 9:28 PM
I already admitted as much about the comedic aspect of the situation, can't do anything about that. So I'll take it like a man, mock me if it makes you happy I guess...
12/1/2010 9:31 PM
Posted by davis on 12/1/2010 8:17:00 PM (view original):
I don't think $19K is really that much to spend on a decent international recruit, given the costs of everything.  I agree with Prez, if the other coach dumped a ton of money into the player in one cycle then you wouldn't necessarily have spent enough at $19K to get a cycle or two worth of grace to try to match the other guy's effort.

I've found that if you have a ton of money in a recruit, then even if another team pours in a ton of dough in one cycle you'll usually get an appropriate message from the recruit, but then have a couple of cycles to respond.  But $19K with B- prestige isn't enough to purchase that kind of "courtesy" from an international recruit.

(Oh, and my apologies for missing the point the first time around.)
Thanks davis, and I guess that is the case. I expected I'd have a chance to react if something changed - I'm learning, so next time I'll be better I hope :)

I appreciate you taking another look at my message.
12/1/2010 9:31 PM
LOL     
12/1/2010 10:28 PM
Epic... Just epic. 
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