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12/7/2011 10:57 AM
Maybe not Traynor, I suppose it helps to actually look at his numbers...
12/7/2011 11:12 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/7/2011 10:41:00 AM (view original):
I don't object to his enshrinement as much as it seems.   The HOF stopped meaning anything long ago.   The best thing they could do is section it off. 

Great players - Ruth, Cobb, Young, etc, etc
Great accomplishments - Larsen's no-hitter, Rose's hits, Rickey's SB, etc, etc
The rest - Santo, Rizzuto, Puckett, etc, etc. 

Of course, people will gripe that they're treating Santo and Puckett as 2nd class citizens.
"The rest" would pretty much cover the VC selections.
12/7/2011 3:04 PM
where is the section for players that they should have put in the Hall, but screwed up?
12/7/2011 3:13 PM
THE LOCAL TAVERN
12/7/2011 3:13 PM
Like the immortal Gary Gaetti?
12/7/2011 4:14 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/7/2011 10:41:00 AM (view original):
I don't object to his enshrinement as much as it seems.   The HOF stopped meaning anything long ago.   The best thing they could do is section it off. 

Great players - Ruth, Cobb, Young, etc, etc
Great accomplishments - Larsen's no-hitter, Rose's hits, Rickey's SB, etc, etc
The rest - Santo, Rizzuto, Puckett, etc, etc. 

Of course, people will gripe that they're treating Santo and Puckett as 2nd class citizens.
I like this idea a lot. Great players and great accomplishments should have special recognition. There are a lot of "the rest" and for them it should suffice to be a HOFer. Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, Young, Mays, Mantle, Aaron...kinda in a class by themselves. Blyleven, Santo, Puckett, Scooter not even close...
12/7/2011 10:17 PM
Posted by winnetka1 on 12/7/2011 4:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/7/2011 10:41:00 AM (view original):
I don't object to his enshrinement as much as it seems.   The HOF stopped meaning anything long ago.   The best thing they could do is section it off. 

Great players - Ruth, Cobb, Young, etc, etc
Great accomplishments - Larsen's no-hitter, Rose's hits, Rickey's SB, etc, etc
The rest - Santo, Rizzuto, Puckett, etc, etc. 

Of course, people will gripe that they're treating Santo and Puckett as 2nd class citizens.
I like this idea a lot. Great players and great accomplishments should have special recognition. There are a lot of "the rest" and for them it should suffice to be a HOFer. Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, Young, Mays, Mantle, Aaron...kinda in a class by themselves. Blyleven, Santo, Puckett, Scooter not even close...

You do know Rizzuto is HOF, right?   He's the Yankee Santo.

12/7/2011 10:38 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/7/2011 10:41:00 AM (view original):
I don't object to his enshrinement as much as it seems.   The HOF stopped meaning anything long ago.   The best thing they could do is section it off. 

Great players - Ruth, Cobb, Young, etc, etc
Great accomplishments - Larsen's no-hitter, Rose's hits, Rickey's SB, etc, etc
The rest - Santo, Rizzuto, Puckett, etc, etc. 

Of course, people will gripe that they're treating Santo and Puckett as 2nd class citizens.
A related idea that occurred to me...what if MLB took a leaf out of the NHL's book and named their divisions after some of the all-time greats?

AL East-Ruth Division
AL Central-Cobb Division
AL West-Foxx Division

NL East-Aaron Division
NL Central-Clemente Division
NL West-Robinson Division

Change the names if you feel like it.  But it's a thought worth considering.
12/7/2011 10:55 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/7/2011 10:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by winnetka1 on 12/7/2011 4:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/7/2011 10:41:00 AM (view original):
I don't object to his enshrinement as much as it seems.   The HOF stopped meaning anything long ago.   The best thing they could do is section it off. 

Great players - Ruth, Cobb, Young, etc, etc
Great accomplishments - Larsen's no-hitter, Rose's hits, Rickey's SB, etc, etc
The rest - Santo, Rizzuto, Puckett, etc, etc. 

Of course, people will gripe that they're treating Santo and Puckett as 2nd class citizens.
I like this idea a lot. Great players and great accomplishments should have special recognition. There are a lot of "the rest" and for them it should suffice to be a HOFer. Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, Young, Mays, Mantle, Aaron...kinda in a class by themselves. Blyleven, Santo, Puckett, Scooter not even close...

You do know Rizzuto is HOF, right?   He's the Yankee Santo.

I loved watching his commercials on TV...Scooter....and I actually liked his broadcasts too. Lived in NY 20 years was a Yankee fan during the 80's and 90's
12/7/2011 10:56 PM
The Money Store
12/7/2011 11:14 PM
Posted by jm1618 on 12/7/2011 10:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/7/2011 10:41:00 AM (view original):
I don't object to his enshrinement as much as it seems.   The HOF stopped meaning anything long ago.   The best thing they could do is section it off. 

Great players - Ruth, Cobb, Young, etc, etc
Great accomplishments - Larsen's no-hitter, Rose's hits, Rickey's SB, etc, etc
The rest - Santo, Rizzuto, Puckett, etc, etc. 

Of course, people will gripe that they're treating Santo and Puckett as 2nd class citizens.
A related idea that occurred to me...what if MLB took a leaf out of the NHL's book and named their divisions after some of the all-time greats?

AL East-Ruth Division
AL Central-Cobb Division
AL West-Foxx Division

NL East-Aaron Division
NL Central-Clemente Division
NL West-Robinson Division

Change the names if you feel like it.  But it's a thought worth considering.
You have the Minority league vs. the White Power league!
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10/3/2013 12:08 PM
Theo at work!!!!!
10/7/2013 12:08 AM
Posted by winnetka1 on 12/7/2011 4:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/7/2011 10:41:00 AM (view original):
I don't object to his enshrinement as much as it seems.   The HOF stopped meaning anything long ago.   The best thing they could do is section it off. 

Great players - Ruth, Cobb, Young, etc, etc
Great accomplishments - Larsen's no-hitter, Rose's hits, Rickey's SB, etc, etc
The rest - Santo, Rizzuto, Puckett, etc, etc. 

Of course, people will gripe that they're treating Santo and Puckett as 2nd class citizens.
I like this idea a lot. Great players and great accomplishments should have special recognition. There are a lot of "the rest" and for them it should suffice to be a HOFer. Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, Young, Mays, Mantle, Aaron...kinda in a class by themselves. Blyleven, Santo, Puckett, Scooter not even close...
Spot on...
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