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5/27/2012 2:40 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/27/2012 2:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/27/2012 1:08:00 PM (view original):
That's just not true. By any objective measure the stimulus helped the economy.
This is like looking at a family budget. The father doesnt pay the mortage, and buys things for the family.

Everything seems better, but in reality it is worse.
That's not an accurate analogy. The stimulus filled a demand vacuum in the economy. Without it, we'd be much worse off.
5/27/2012 5:04 PM
Taking money out of the system, and then the fact that the beauracracy of the government sucks up a large precentage, then to put whats left into fake economic projects.
 
That just delays the real recovery
5/27/2012 9:01 PM
Am I the only one who likes to talk about facts instead of supposition? This back and forth with malcom x is just a waste of time, just a bunch of I'm right, no I'm right. no I'm right, no I'm right.
5/28/2012 12:22 AM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/27/2012 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Taking money out of the system, and then the fact that the beauracracy of the government sucks up a large precentage, then to put whats left into fake economic projects.
 
That just delays the real recovery
The money that was leant to the gov wasn't money that was being actively used. It was going to sit in savings accounts.
5/28/2012 1:45 AM
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 12:22:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/27/2012 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Taking money out of the system, and then the fact that the beauracracy of the government sucks up a large precentage, then to put whats left into fake economic projects.
 
That just delays the real recovery
The money that was leant to the gov wasn't money that was being actively used. It was going to sit in savings accounts.
I never met a money fortune teller.
5/28/2012 11:34 AM
Ignore, ignore, ignore.......the attack is inevitable.................
5/28/2012 11:39 AM
I HEREBY DECLARE MY THREAD CLOSED


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5/28/2012 12:30 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/28/2012 1:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 12:22:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/27/2012 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Taking money out of the system, and then the fact that the beauracracy of the government sucks up a large precentage, then to put whats left into fake economic projects.
 
That just delays the real recovery
The money that was leant to the gov wasn't money that was being actively used. It was going to sit in savings accounts.
I never met a money fortune teller.
You don't have to be a fortune teller. The inflation adjusted return on a ten year treasury bond is negative.
5/28/2012 1:55 PM
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 12:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/28/2012 1:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 12:22:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/27/2012 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Taking money out of the system, and then the fact that the beauracracy of the government sucks up a large precentage, then to put whats left into fake economic projects.
 
That just delays the real recovery
The money that was leant to the gov wasn't money that was being actively used. It was going to sit in savings accounts.
I never met a money fortune teller.
You don't have to be a fortune teller. The inflation adjusted return on a ten year treasury bond is negative.
You see treasury investment as proof that people would sit on their money.

I see it as proof that the economy was slow.

Why would they keep it in a bad investment if there was another option.

The question is...

Is the recession natural or artificial.
5/28/2012 1:58 PM
Posted by antoncresten on 5/28/2012 11:39:00 AM (view original):
I HEREBY DECLARE MY THREAD CLOSED


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REPEAT: CLOSED

RETAHD REPAIRS
5/28/2012 2:04 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/28/2012 1:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 12:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/28/2012 1:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 12:22:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/27/2012 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Taking money out of the system, and then the fact that the beauracracy of the government sucks up a large precentage, then to put whats left into fake economic projects.
 
That just delays the real recovery
The money that was leant to the gov wasn't money that was being actively used. It was going to sit in savings accounts.
I never met a money fortune teller.
You don't have to be a fortune teller. The inflation adjusted return on a ten year treasury bond is negative.
You see treasury investment as proof that people would sit on their money.

I see it as proof that the economy was slow.

Why would they keep it in a bad investment if there was another option.

The question is...

Is the recession natural or artificial.
Is that really the question?

Sustained growth cannot be maintained.  Therefore, every economy will have peaks/valleys.   The key is to limit the time and depth of the valleys.   The current administration hasn't done that.   Consumer confidence is low and government spending is high.   People see what happens overseas and we want to believe it can't happen here.  But, sadly, it can.    There is no end in sight because government spending won't/can't be cut.  Too many special interests. 

5/28/2012 4:31 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/28/2012 1:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 12:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/28/2012 1:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 12:22:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/27/2012 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Taking money out of the system, and then the fact that the beauracracy of the government sucks up a large precentage, then to put whats left into fake economic projects.
 
That just delays the real recovery
The money that was leant to the gov wasn't money that was being actively used. It was going to sit in savings accounts.
I never met a money fortune teller.
You don't have to be a fortune teller. The inflation adjusted return on a ten year treasury bond is negative.
You see treasury investment as proof that people would sit on their money.

I see it as proof that the economy was slow.

Why would they keep it in a bad investment if there was another option.

The question is...

Is the recession natural or artificial.
The economy was slow. So the money was sitting still. The gov using the money helps the economy.
5/28/2012 4:39 PM
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 4:31:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/28/2012 1:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 12:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/28/2012 1:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/28/2012 12:22:00 AM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/27/2012 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Taking money out of the system, and then the fact that the beauracracy of the government sucks up a large precentage, then to put whats left into fake economic projects.
 
That just delays the real recovery
The money that was leant to the gov wasn't money that was being actively used. It was going to sit in savings accounts.
I never met a money fortune teller.
You don't have to be a fortune teller. The inflation adjusted return on a ten year treasury bond is negative.
You see treasury investment as proof that people would sit on their money.

I see it as proof that the economy was slow.

Why would they keep it in a bad investment if there was another option.

The question is...

Is the recession natural or artificial.
The economy was slow. So the money was sitting still. The gov using the money helps the economy.
Artificial demand is not sustainable.
5/28/2012 4:45 PM
It's not meant to be a long term solution. The movement of the money jump starts the economy. Long term, the debt needs to be dealt with. Short term, capital needs to be moved to create demand.
5/28/2012 5:13 PM
Capital is only moved when people are comfortable.   If one feels like they're about to be taxed out of their *** to cover government spending, money will not be spent/invested.
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