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9/27/2012 3:00 PM
Here are the three combinations chosen more than once...

Owner_________ League Winning% Clones Players
bighooze 6A 0.690 3 Babe Ruth, Lou Boudreau, Mariano Rivera
contrarian23 6D 0.500 3 Babe Ruth, Lou Boudreau, Mariano Rivera
         
muckles6 6C 0.538 3 Pedro Martinez, Jimmie Foxx, Rogers Hornsby
batandball 6C 0.525 3 Pedro Martinez, Jimmie Foxx, Rogers Hornsby
         
footballmm11 6A 0.544 3 Babe Ruth, Dennis Eckersley, Lou Boudreau
rls1 6D 0.348 3 Babe Ruth, Dennis Eckersley, Lou Boudreau
9/27/2012 3:05 PM
Here is a breakdown by number of clones selected...

Owner_________ League Winning% Clones Players
tracyr 6A 0.437 2 Pedro Martinez, Rogers Hornsby

Owner_________ League Winning% Clones Players
bighooze 6A 0.690 3 Babe Ruth, Lou Boudreau, Mariano Rivera
bardin 6A 0.608 3 Pedro Martinez, Roger Bresnahan, Rogers Hornsby
jfranco77 6A 0.595 3 King Kelly, Pedro Martinez, Rogers Hornsby
alleyviper 6C 0.589 3 Honus Wagner, Jimmie Foxx, Pedro Martinez
tjefferson 6A 0.589 3 Jimmie Foxx, Pedro Martinez, Tim Raines
dahsdebater 6B 0.551 3 Pedro Martinez, David Ross, Honus Wagner
shaybee 6D 0.551 3 Babe Ruth, Jimmie Foxx, Mariano Rivera
footballmm11 6A 0.544 3 Babe Ruth, Dennis Eckersley, Lou Boudreau
muckles6 6C 0.538 3 Pedro Martinez, Jimmie Foxx, Rogers Hornsby
batandball 6C 0.525 3 Pedro Martinez, Jimmie Foxx, Rogers Hornsby
dougpalm 6A 0.513 3 Pedro Martinez, Earl Smith, Honus Wagner
contrarian23 6D 0.500 3 Babe Ruth, Lou Boudreau, Mariano Rivera
just4me 6C 0.500 3 John Smoltz, Jimmie Foxx, Rogers Hornsby
Average   0.493 3  
odalisgagne 6C 0.468 3 Honus Wagner, Lave Cross, Pedro Martinez
fooolishfool 6B 0.462 3 Pedro Martinez, Rogers Hornsby, Tris Speaker
rmdriskill 6B 0.462 3 Ed Walsh, Jimmie Foxx, Howard Johnson
Dalefan1 6A 0.430 3 Pedro Martinez, Jimmie Foxx, Tony Phillips
tdoak 6B 0.430 3 Babe Ruth, Dennis Eckersley, Lave Cross
chargingryno 6D 0.399 3 Dennis Eckersley, Jimmie Foxx, Nap Lajoie
leeelci 6C 0.399 3 Nap Lajoie, Pedro Martinez, Ted Simmons
rls1 6D 0.348 3 Babe Ruth, Dennis Eckersley, Lou Boudreau
shadoworkcat 6B 0.329 3 John Smoltz, Lou Boudreau, Pete Rose
beirnej1 6B 0.310 3 Babe Ruth, John Smoltz, Pete Rose

Owner_________ League Winning% Clones Players
schwarze 6C 0.652 4 Pedro Martinez, Mike Redmond, Rogers Hornsby, Tim Raines
yankeeso7 6D 0.633 4 Christy Mathewson, Honus Wagner, Mariano Rivera, Sandy Alomar Jr.
ryan_horner 6C 0.627 4 Greg Maddux, Honus Wagner, Jimmie Foxx, Tim Raines
mpitt76 6B 0.608 4 Mordecai Brown, Mariano Rivera, Joe Ferguson, Nap Lajoie
bigmc 6D 0.601 4 Babe Adams, Babe Ruth, Rogers Hornsby, Todd Greene
jjgreen14 6D 0.601 4 Greg Maddux, Lou Boudreau, Mariano Rivera, Pete Rose
tridentric 6C 0.601 4 Bert Campaneris, Dennis Eckersley, Pete Alexander, Pete Rose
profcake 6B 0.595 4 Babe Ruth, Bip Roberts, Mariano Rivera, Ted Simmons
hacker7 6C 0.582 4 Goose Goslin, Joe Mauer, Pedro Martinez, Rogers Hornsby
jbohrman 6B 0.582 4 Addie Joss, Mariano Rivera, Jimmie Foxx, Rogers Hornsby
tulsaslide 6C 0.582 4 Pedro Martinez, Mariano Rivera, Jimmie Foxx, Tony Phillips
newarkwilder 6D 0.576 4 Babe Adams, Jimmie Foxx, Rogers Hornsby, Tim Raines
mllama54 6C 0.563 4 Darrell Porter, John Smoltz, Rogers Hornsby, Ty Cobb
sgsmith 6B 0.557 4 Mordecai Brown, Mariano Rivera, Jimmie Foxx, Tim Raines
loma_prieta 6A 0.551 4 Pedro Martinez, Carlton Fisk, Alex Rodriguez, Tim Raines
rbow923 6C 0.551 4 Mordecai Brown, Todd Pratt, Rogers Hornsby, Babe Ruth
mildnhazy 6B 0.544 4 Greg Maddux, Mariano Rivera, Jimmie Foxx, Rogers Hornsby
Relkcirts 6A 0.544 4 Aaron Miles, Dennis Eckersley, Greg Maddux, Jimmie Foxx
ballantine 6A 0.538 4 Gregg Zaun, Mordecai Brown, Rogers Hornsby, Ty Cobb
ncih 6C 0.538 4 Greg Maddux, Jimmie Foxx, Honus Wagner, Rickey Henderson
wetwillytwo 6D 0.538 4 Greg Maddux, Jimmie Foxx, Luke Appling, Mariano Rivera
ejstockman 6D 0.532 4 Arthur Rhodes, Babe Adams, Craig Biggio, Rickey Henderson
elvisgump 6B 0.525 4 Pedro Martinez, Jimmie Foxx, Toby Harrah, Dave Henderson
gorbyruss 6A 0.519 4 Greg Maddux, King Kelly, Trevor Hoffman, Ty Cobb
calhoop 6D 0.513 4 Babe Adams, Babe Ruth, Jimmie Foxx, Rogers Hornsby
dippedncrack 6A 0.513 4 Babe Adams, Mariano Rivera, Mike Redmond, Nap Lajoie
SpotSell 6B 0.513 4 Cy Young, Honus Wagner, Mike Piazza, Trevor Hoffman
zephyr1949 6B 0.513 4 Mordecai Brown, Mariano Rivera, Joe Torre, Robin Yount
marlowe 6A 0.506 4 Pedro Martinez, Jimmie Foxx, Joe Cronin, Mel Ott
nhsteven 6A 0.506 4 Babe Ruth, Jimmie Foxx, Rich Gossage, Rogers Hornsby
Average   0.502 4  
mensu1954 6B 0.500 4 Greg Maddux, Jimmie Foxx, Mariano Rivera, Placido Polanco
cstrohmier 6B 0.494 4 Honus Wagner, Jim Beauchamp, Jimmie Foxx, Walter Johnson
eman_wi 6D 0.487 4 Honus Wagner, Mike Redmond, Pedro Martinez, Tim Raines
31013 6A 0.475 4 Greg Maddux, Mariano Rivera, Joe Torre, Rickey Henderson
Chisock 6D 0.475 4 Dennis Eckersley, Hank Aaron, Lou Boudreau, Randy Johnson
elonsmitty 6B 0.475 4 Babe Adams, Sandy Alomar Jr., Rogers Hornsby, Babe Ruth
forte4him 6B 0.475 4 Dennis Eckersley, Greg Maddux, Neifi Perez, Pete Rose
Donburgh 6C 0.468 4 Babe Adams, Billy Wagner, Craig Biggio, Honus Wagner
bigsteve12 6A 0.462 4 Honus Wagner, John Smoltz, Mariano Rivera, Mike Lieberthal
zlionsfan 6D 0.462 4 Ed Kirkpatrick, Honus Wagner, Rich Gossage, Roger Clemens
id_203 6D 0.456 4 Babe Adams, Don Pavletich, Rogers Hornsby, Tris Speaker
besterateam 6B 0.449 4 Pedro Martinez, Babe Phelps, Nap Lajoie, Babe Ruth
Jtpsops 6D 0.449 4 Jimmie Foxx, Michael Young, Pedro Martinez, Tim Raines
gigrant 6C 0.437 4 Hughie Jennings, Jack O'Connor, John Smoltz, Pete Rose
holleybard 6B 0.437 4 Pedro Martinez, Mike Lieberthal, Rogers Hornsby, Babe Ruth
markeking 6D 0.430 4 Jimmie Foxx, Pedro Martinez, Rogers Hornsby, Ted Williams
toddcommish 6A 0.424 4 Jimmie Foxx, Joe Nathan, Rogers Hornsby, Walter Johnson
slightner 6B 0.418 4 Honus Wagner, Mariano Rivera, Rogers Hornsby, Walter Johnson
spikeboots 6D 0.418 4 Babe Ruth, Lou Boudreau, Mariano Rivera, Walter Johnson
oskies 6C 0.411 4 Addie Joss, Honus Wagner, Jimmie Foxx, Mike Mordecai
thejuice6 6C 0.411 4 Mordecai Brown, Mariano Rivera, Bill Dickey, Rogers Hornsby
mw100 6D 0.354 4 Babe Adams, Jimmie Foxx, Juan Castro, Nap Lajoie
happyhours 6C 0.348 4 Joe Torre, Pedro Martinez, Robin Yount, Rogers Hornsby
thebubbaq 6A 0.316 4 Randy Johnson, Phil Niekro, Maury Wills, Hank Aaron
Poddy 6A 0.285 4 Dennis Eckersley, Jimmie Foxx, John Smoltz, Pete Rose

Owner_________ League Winning% Clones Players
brianjw 6B 0.684 5 Greg Maddux, Honus Wagner, Jimmie Foxx, Mariano Rivera, Tim Raines
buddhagamer 6A 0.627 5 Babe Ruth, Butch Wynegar, Mariano Rivera, Mordecai Brown, Rogers Hornsby
ybjsports 6D 0.601 5 Ed Walsh, Jimmie Foxx, Mariano Rivera, Neifi Perez, Tim Raines
cubbies84 6C 0.582 5 Greg Maddux, Mariano Rivera, Jack Clements, Howard Johnson, Tim Raines
crystalao 6C 0.551 5 Greg Maddux, Jack Pfiester, Norm Charlton, Craig Biggio, Willie Mays
discodemo 6D 0.551 5 Ed Walsh, Mike Piazza, Rogers Hornsby, Trevor Hoffman, Tris Speaker
beauchamp 6D 0.544 5 Dick Hall, Greg Maddux, Jimmie Foxx, Ozzie Smith, Tim Raines
Average   0.511 5  
dlchow 6D 0.506 5 Billy Wagner, Damion Easley, Jimmie Foxx, Kevin Brown, Tim Raines
sford 6A 0.487 5 Pedro Martinez, Mariano Rivera, King Kelly, Rogers Hornsby, Tris Speaker
daronb 6B 0.475 5 Greg Maddux, Pedro Martinez, Gene Tenace, Ozzie Smith, Tim Raines
Jdh34 6D 0.475 5 Addie Joss, Babe Ruth, Jimmie Foxx, Rogers Hornsby, Tom Henke
jrnyfan01 6C 0.399 5 Randy Johnson, Sandy Alomar Jr., Nap Lajoie, Alex Rodriguez, Amos Otis
DarthDurron 6C 0.348 5 Barry Bonds, Hal Lanier, Joe Torre, Sandy Koufax, Trevor Hoffman
jbar8888 6C 0.329 5 Addie Joss, Billy Wagner, Phil Gagliano, Rogers Hornsby, Ty Cobb

Owner_________ League Winning% Clones Players
blackmink18 6B 0.614 6 Don Sutton, Frankie Frisch, Jose Vizcaino, Mariano Rivera, Tim Raines, Victor Martinez
trd3 6A 0.494 6 Craig Biggio, George Davis, Mariano Rivera, Pedro Martinez, Ron Guidry, Tim Raines
Average   0.485 6  
spoonfed 6A 0.348 6 Cy Young, Harry Krause, Joe Mauer, Joe Nathan, Marty McManus, Tris Speaker


9/27/2012 3:19 PM
Here is an average winning percentage by clone selected...

Player____________ Teams AvgWin%
Jimmie Foxx 35 0.511
Rogers Hornsby 31 0.508
Pedro Martinez 28 0.506
Mariano Rivera 27 0.547
Babe Ruth 18 0.501
Tim Raines 16 0.562
Honus Wagner 16 0.520
Greg Maddux 15 0.546
Babe Adams 9 0.499
Dennis Eckersley 9 0.456
Lou Boudreau 8 0.488
Mordecai Brown 7 0.544
Nap Lajoie 7 0.446
Pete Rose 7 0.434
John Smoltz 7 0.412
Tris Speaker 5 0.461
Craig Biggio 4 0.511
Ty Cobb 4 0.487
Trevor Hoffman 4 0.483
Addie Joss 4 0.449
Walter Johnson 4 0.439
Joe Torre 4 0.421
Mike Redmond 3 0.551
Ed Walsh 3 0.538
King Kelly 3 0.534
Rickey Henderson 3 0.515
Sandy Alomar Jr. 3 0.502
Billy Wagner 3 0.434
Randy Johnson 3 0.397
Neifi Perez 2 0.538
Mike Piazza 2 0.532
Howard Johnson 2 0.522
Ozzie Smith 2 0.510
Tony Phillips 2 0.506
Ted Simmons 2 0.497
Rich Gossage 2 0.484
Alex Rodriguez 2 0.475
Joe Mauer 2 0.465
Mike Lieberthal 2 0.450
Lave Cross 2 0.449
Cy Young 2 0.431
Robin Yount 2 0.431
Hank Aaron 2 0.396
Joe Nathan 2 0.386
Christy Mathewson 1 0.633
Butch Wynegar 1 0.627
Don Sutton 1 0.614
Frankie Frisch 1 0.614
Jose Vizcaino 1 0.614
Victor Martinez 1 0.614
Joe Ferguson 1 0.608
Roger Bresnahan 1 0.608
Bert Campaneris 1 0.601
Pete Alexander 1 0.601
Todd Greene 1 0.601
Bip Roberts 1 0.595
Goose Goslin 1 0.582
Jack Clements 1 0.582
Darrell Porter 1 0.563
Carlton Fisk 1 0.551
David Ross 1 0.551
Jack Pfiester 1 0.551
Norm Charlton 1 0.551
Todd Pratt 1 0.551
Willie Mays 1 0.551
Aaron Miles 1 0.544
Dick Hall 1 0.544
Gregg Zaun 1 0.538
Luke Appling 1 0.538
Arthur Rhodes 1 0.532
Dave Henderson 1 0.525
Toby Harrah 1 0.525
Earl Smith 1 0.513
Damion Easley 1 0.506
Joe Cronin 1 0.506
Kevin Brown 1 0.506
Mel Ott 1 0.506
Placido Polanco 1 0.500
George Davis 1 0.494
Jim Beauchamp 1 0.494
Ron Guidry 1 0.494
Gene Tenace 1 0.475
Tom Henke 1 0.475
Ed Kirkpatrick 1 0.462
Roger Clemens 1 0.462
Don Pavletich 1 0.456
Babe Phelps 1 0.449
Michael Young 1 0.449
Hughie Jennings 1 0.437
Jack O'Connor 1 0.437
Ted Williams 1 0.430
Bill Dickey 1 0.411
Mike Mordecai 1 0.411
Amos Otis 1 0.399
Juan Castro 1 0.354
Barry Bonds 1 0.348
Hal Lanier 1 0.348
Harry Krause 1 0.348
Marty McManus 1 0.348
Sandy Koufax 1 0.348
Phil Gagliano 1 0.329
Maury Wills 1 0.316
Phil Niekro 1 0.316
9/27/2012 3:37 PM
Sometimes, bold moves pay off:

GorbyRuss is 82-76 with 4 clones - Cobb, King Kelly, Hoffman and Maddux

SS King Kelly has 165 errors and 27 minus plays
2B Ty Cobb has 102 errors and 28 minus plays

Tjefferson is 93-65 with Jimmie Foxx playing SS 

(34 Foxx is unrated at SS, is a B/A+ 1B, and has 51 errors but only 6 minus plays)

BigHooze is 109-49 with a 3-man team of Rivera/Boudreau/Ruth

'96 Rivera, despite having a RL IP/G of 1.76, has started 45 games and thrown 38.8 pitches per game... he has a 3.47 ERA for the year.
9/27/2012 4:26 PM
That really makes me feel like an underachiever...my 3-man Rivera/Boudreau/Ruth team is 79-79 and won't make the playoffs.
9/27/2012 5:24 PM
In my "team building analysis", I mention that I was trying a Ruth / Boudreau team but couldn't get it to work.  I never considered adding Rivera to the mix (as I was focused on getting 3 Babe Ruth SPs).  The salary was too darn high.

Amazing job by bighooze.
9/27/2012 6:53 PM
I was shocked by the results in this league - what worked and what didn't....I'm also a little ****** off at my performance given I had the 2nd highest exp winning percentage among the 24 teams in my league (after brianjw) but I'm not even going to sniff the playoffs......
9/27/2012 6:58 PM
I used the 3 Ruth SPs, and they did about as well as I expected, maybe even a little better.  Rivera was a major disappointment across the board.  And the 2 Boudreaus I spent big $ on really did not deliver anywhere close to the production I would have needed.
9/29/2012 9:55 AM
Thanks...sure I'll get swept in the first round...(excuse the blatant attempt at fending off the inscrutable sim gods)
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