thats a poor example mets, in fact, its totally irrelevant. these are two very different situations. in the main point of the thread, we are talking about a player getting 5 minutes less than he wants. he should just take that 5 minutes, and in fact, it should make him work harder. why don't you stick to the point instead of bringing up all this irrelevant stuff?
anyway, if he didnt want to be redshirted, you could just make him run a hundred laps a day until he tolerates it, and that would just make him work harder so he could get playing time the next season. bottom line, if you want to redshirt him, you could use the redshirt button to determine during recruiting if he will take it or not. so again, this situation is totally different and has nothing to do with the main point of the thread.
and lets be clear about something. you are taking something bistiza said, and totally twisting it. he never said he ought to have total control. he only said that if he wants a player to do something, that player shouldn't do it, and he shouldnt have to deal with the player not doing what he wants the player to do. i dont know if you are saying this as a personal attack or if you are trying to make an analogy and failing miserably. the bottom line is, he never said he ought to have total control, and i don't know if thought he implied it, but bistiza says what he means, and does not imply anything.
i know how bistiza feels now, it really feels good to give someone such a thrashing. mets, you should just concede this situation has nothing to do with the main point of the thread. as long as you continue to use faulty logic and build on logical fallacies, either myself or bistiza will have to give you another trashing with our superior logic. if you want, we can just agree to disagree. bottom line, nothing you said disproves anything stated in this thread. it was moderately entertaining to read your posts though.