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11/12/2012 2:26 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8623286/pac-12-investigate-allegations-washington-state-cougars-coach-mike-leach
11/12/2012 3:18 PM
That guy seems to be a real douchebag...we'll see how it plays out
11/12/2012 3:37 PM
Or a prima donna WR doesn't like not being treated like a prima donna.    Don't think I'd throw a stone at Leach just yet.
11/12/2012 4:13 PM
That's why I said we'll see how it plays out...
11/12/2012 4:14 PM
Leach called the effort of the team as "bordering on cowardice" and "that it could have been a zombie convention".  You don't say that crap publically.

Wilson is the teams leading receiver and probably its best player yet Leach demoted him from his starting position.  Wilson then walked out of a very lengthy conditioning session on a Sunday, was suspended indefinitely on Monday, and quit the team soon after.

Seems very strange that a kid who could have possibly been drafted would just leave if there wasn't something a little odd going on. 
11/12/2012 4:38 PM
Wasn't recruited by Leach.  Might not have been his type of player.   Get tough or get gone.   Leach is setting the tone.   All coaches do it.   Every time a new coach is hired, a half dozen players transfer.  Wilson thought "OMG!!  Leach loves to throw the ball around.  I'll set records!!!"   Then he found out that nothing is going to be given to him.  So, like a puss, he quits.
11/12/2012 4:50 PM
Really mike?
Coddled player BAD.
Coddled coach GOOD.
And from what I read at his previous HC job, if there is just a shred of truth-the guy is a real P.O.S.
11/12/2012 5:02 PM
I think we absolutely have to wait to see what else comes out.  This doesn't immediately pass the smell test.  Given what went down at Texas Tech, you have to believe that Washington State has been keeping a pretty close eye on this sort of thing.

The draft thing doesn't really raise any flags - maybe he assumes everyone will believe him since Leach has a history, won't hold it against him, and he can go to the draft without having to put up with Leach for the rest of this season.   Who knows?  We've got nothing to go on right now except some vague accusations and whatever you want to say about Leach's reputation.
11/12/2012 5:06 PM
Exactly. 

WSU is running gassers.   Kid says "**** this.  I'm going pro after this season and I don't have to put up with this.  Everyone knows why Leach was fired at TT and they also know he wants to be a pirate.  I'm done with this."

So, yeah, I think Leach was intent on setting a tone and his star WR was the example.    Yelling at players is football and so are "punishment" sprints.   Sticking them in a dark closet, not so much. 
11/12/2012 5:40 PM
Or maybe he just punked out of the one practice but after he walked off he decided to try and save face by pinning it on Leach.

Or, maybe Leach DID go off the reservation again.  

But the kid hasn't given us anything to react to.  When/if he actually does, or if the investigation turns up something, I'll react.
11/12/2012 7:02 PM
You know who is abusive?  Tuberville at TT.   Might be something in the water down there.
12/13/2012 10:45 AM

SPOKANE, Wash.— An internal investigation into a former player's allegations of abuse by Washington State football coaches didn't turn up any evidence of abuse, athletic director Bill Moos said Wednesday.

A dozen players were interviewed by two members of Moos' staff, and all reported they were having a positive experience at Washington State under head coach Mike Leach and his assistants, Moos said.

 

"The majority of the players stated that the player that walked out of practice let the team down and put them, their coach and WSU in a bad light," Moos wrote in a memo to WSU President Elson Floyd that was released Wednesday.

"There is no signs of abuse or mistreatment of players," Moos said in a conference call with reporters from Pullman. "Hopefully, we can get this behind us and go forward."

Star receiver Marquess Wilson quit the team during a practice late in the season and later contended that players were suffering physical and mental abuse at the hands of coaches.

Floyd asked for the internal review of those allegations, and also asked the Pacific-12 Conference to do its own review. The conference review is still being conducted.

Wilson contended in a letter sent to journalists on Nov. 10 that he quit the team prior to the UCLA game as a protest to "physical, emotional and verbal abuse" by the coaching staff. He complained that coaches would "belittle, intimidate and humiliate us." He did not provide details.

Leach denied there was any abuse.

Moos revealed in his memo that he received a text message from Wilson after the UCLA game "where he recanted the allegations of abuse made in a letter written by he and a relative and sent to the media earlier that evening."

Wilson's text to Moos was included in emails released by the school Wednesday in response to a Freedom of Information Act request from a number of media organizations including the AP.

"Mr. Moos this is marquess ... With that letter I wasn't trying to accuse the coaches of hitting players or anything. I was just trying to put it in different terms and now everything is getting misinterpreted and I didn't mean it like that at all ... I simply was trying to get my story across and get my name cleared instead of having it say I'm suspended for breaking team violations ... That could mean like I did drugs or something ... I was never trying to harm the university or the program with it."

In his memo, Moos said the players interviewed by his staff reported they felt supported academically and socially on the football team.

"The players did say the offseason conditioning sessions are intense and challenging, but appropriate for what they are designed to achieve," Moos wrote. "The players said they believe in the coaches and that they will take the program to a higher level."

Moos said his staff asked players to discuss academic services, nutrition, athletic training, strength and conditioning and equipment operations.

Moos said his staff found "the head coach is firm, fair and most of all, consistent."

Moos said some concerns were raised regarding conditioning drills in a box of sand next to the practice field.

"Water was used on occasion to harden the sand in the box and at times players were sprayed," Moos wrote. "This practice was discontinued upon my directive around mid-season as I felt it was not necessary to produce the desired results."

Leach was fired from Texas Tech after the 2009 season for an incident in which he was alleged to have ordered a player with a concussion to sit in a storage shed during practice. Leach disputed the allegation and it was not proven. Leach has sued Texas Tech, contending he was fired so the school could avoid a large payment due him at the end of the year.

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