3/24/2013 4:55 PM
Here is a example.

Team 1 offers Joe Smith
Season 1- $5 mil
Season 2-$5 mil with mutual option.



Team 2 offers Joe Smith
Season 1-$8 mil

Which contract would the player consider the top offer?  Just trying to figure out how players look at options in their contract.





3/24/2013 4:57 PM
Team 1. 

The player looks at total overall money. Options/no trade clauses, are extra to determine ties.
3/24/2013 7:25 PM
Posted by lccooler on 3/24/2013 4:57:00 PM (view original):
Team 1. 

The player looks at total overall money. Options/no trade clauses, are extra to determine ties.
Not exactly true.  Team options are a significant negative, in my experience, in contract negotiations; I've never even tried to offer a player option, so I don't know about that.  Mutual options seem to be a slight negative, but it's very slight; team 1 would win in the case presented.
3/25/2013 5:06 PM
IIRC, from doing in season extensions w/ my own players.  If a guy is looking for 5 mil a season over 2 years and you offer 5 mil a season over 2 years w/ the 2nd season being a team option, he'll decline.  If you offer a similar contract, w/ the only difference being year 2 is a mutual option, the player will accept.
3/25/2013 5:40 PM
Just went through FA and asked an owner about options; team option the player will only look at the amount of money he'd make if the option was declined; mutual/player option he looks at the full amount
3/25/2013 7:02 PM
Posted by dedelman on 3/24/2013 7:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by lccooler on 3/24/2013 4:57:00 PM (view original):
Team 1. 

The player looks at total overall money. Options/no trade clauses, are extra to determine ties.
Not exactly true.  Team options are a significant negative, in my experience, in contract negotiations; I've never even tried to offer a player option, so I don't know about that.  Mutual options seem to be a slight negative, but it's very slight; team 1 would win in the case presented.
I've always considered mutual options to be 100% neutral.  I've never had an issue in offering a FA the exact years and total salary he was demanding, but adding a mutual option to the final season of the contract.
3/25/2013 7:32 PM
Yes, I agree with tecwrg. Completely neutral from what I've seen. I always stick a mutual option on the end, and have not noticed any negative consequences.

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