4/7/2013 8:06 AM
I am confused by my drop from an A+ to A in D2 Tark.  These are my last 6 seasons,.

Season Coach Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Neutral
W-L
Conf
W-L
Rank RPI SOS Prestige Notes
78 Trentonjoe 18-13 7-8 8-3 3-2 11-5   35 1 A NT At-large Bid
NT (Elite 8)
77 Trentonjoe 21-9 9-3 10-4 2-2 13-3   11 2 A+ NT At-large Bid
NT (2nd Round)
76 Trentonjoe 23-6 15-1 7-3 1-2 13-3 15 4 2 A+ Conf Champion
NT At-large Bid
NT (2nd Round)
75 Trentonjoe 29-4 12-2 11-1 6-1 14-2 4 14 20 A+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (Elite 8)
74 Trentonjoe 22-9 11-2 8-5 3-2 10-6   30 25 B+ NT At-large Bid
NT (2nd Round)
73 Trentonjoe 15-16 11-5 2-10 2-1 9-7   68 5 B+ PI (2nd Round)


Isn't season 73 (the PT season) "recplaced" by my elite eight run last season?    How could my prestige go down?
4/7/2013 8:14 AM
Prestige is last 4 seasons. S74 is being replaced, why you didn't maintain an A+ based on your previous A+, I dunno.
4/7/2013 9:27 AM
I think it has to be some sort of combo of  not getting 20 wins, not being ranked,  having started at a low A+.   Or a mistake.
4/7/2013 10:34 AM
the game does weight deep runs pretty hard, but it weights W/L pretty hard, too. theres a huge difference between an elite 8 as a 14 seed and an elite 8 as a 1-2 seed (see season 75). if you lost in the 1st or 2nd round, you'd probably have fallen to an A-. you really probably dropped much less than a whole third of a grade - your A is probably very good and your A+ was definitely very low.
4/7/2013 11:31 AM
That makes sense.
4/7/2013 12:13 PM
only other thing I could add to what gillispie said..... would be if conference baseline prestige changed.
4/7/2013 12:19 PM
Is there conference baseline prestige in D2?
4/7/2013 1:36 PM
There is conference prestige but I dont think it affects team prestige.
4/8/2013 9:14 AM
Those two second round finishes the previous two seasons may have affected it - you didn't drop then, but the cumulative effect came into play even though you made elite 8 this last season. That's my guess, anyway.
4/8/2013 9:46 AM
Definitely the 18 wins.  WIS thinks a good record is equally important to a NT run. I've seen teams with 28 wins and an SOS of 340 lose in the first round and improve a full letter in prestige.
4/8/2013 10:25 AM
According to the Knowledge Base (which is what customet support sent me to) all that matters in D2 is:

Winning Percentage
SOS
Tournament Success
Previous Prestige

So apparently, my 18-13 record was a big enough "penalty" to offset an Elite Eight appearance and a SOS of 1.

I guess it really doesn't matter, I don't need WIS to tell me I am an A+ program.  I am good enough, smart enough and gosh darn it people like me.
4/8/2013 12:37 PM
Posted by tdowdy3 on 4/7/2013 12:13:00 PM (view original):
only other thing I could add to what gillispie said..... would be if conference baseline prestige changed.
i thought conference prestige was a factor in d1 only

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